A93091:173
A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible…A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible…
A treatise of liturgies, power of the keys, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shepherd, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-College in Cambridge, and late pastor of Cambridge in New-England.A treatise of liturgies, power of the keyes, and of matter of the visible church. In answer to the reverend servant of Christ, Mr. John Ball. By Thomas Shephard, sometimes fellow of Emanuel-Colledge in Cambridge, and late pastour of Cambridge in New-England.
London: printed by E. Cotes for Andrew Crooke, 1652
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Answ. First, the learned replier is very apt to forget the terms of the Proposition, which is of the whole Liturgy, not of some things in it, that he may judge lawful, to judge the whole lawful, we think none of those who sent the questions do.
Answ. First, the learned replier is very apt to forget the termes of the Proposition, which is of the whole Liturgie, not of some things in it, that hee may judge lawfull, to judge the whole lawfull, wee thinke none of those who sent the questions doe.
Secondly, our question is not whether the Minister use the book of humane frailty, but whether the worship offered therein, be not so corrupt for matter and manner, as puts a great difference between it, and the prayers of a Minister that may be subject to failings of humane frailty. We doubt not, but Bilney, Latimer, &c. used the prayers and ceremonies of the Church of Rome, out of humane frailty, yet the service it self and those ceremonies of holy water, holy bread, &c. which Latimer turned to as good use, as he could, were evil and no way to be conformed unto by the godly.
Secondly, our question is not whether the Minister use the book of humane frailtie, but whether the worship offered therein, bee not so corrupt for matter and manner, as puts a great difference betweene it, and the prayers of a Minister that may bee subject to faylings of humane frailtie. Wee doubt not, but Bilney, Latimer, &c. used the prayers and ceremonies of the Church of Rome, out of humane frailtie, yet the service it selfe and those ceremonies of holy water, holy bread, &c. which Latimer turned to as good use, as hee could, were evill and no way to bee conformed unto by the godly.
Thirdly, there are many things done of others through humane ⟨p. 57⟩