The Rev. Mr. Clap's Testimony, Page 55, 56, About the 20th of January, I happened to be in Company with Mr. Breck, and he said to me these Words, viz. I made some of the People angry at what I preached t'other Day: I replied what was that? He said, I preached that the Heathen that lived up to the Light of Nature should be saved without Faith in Christ: And on Mr. Clap's Objecting against his preaching so, Mr. Clap testifies, that he said, why would you not have me preach up the Truth. Mr. Breck said he would preach People out of those false and stingy Notions which they have been taught in; that the common People out of Pride and Self-conceit, confined Salvation only to themselves: but I will have them to know that the Heathen may be saved as well as they can; and more to the same Purpose. Page 58, Mr. B—said, Faith in Christ was not in its own Nature necessary to Salvation; and that all that was necessary in order to that End, was that Men should forsake Sin and lead moral Lives; and this Men might do merely out of Love to Virtue itself; and if Men did but attain the End, it was no Matter what Motive they acted upon; and said he, Master Chubb brings a very ingenious Comparison to illustrate it; and he took down the Book and turned the Place to me, and I read the Comparison, which was after this Manner; Suppose there were a Company of Men in a House, and some Person should come in and tell them that this House would fall in two Hours, and that they should be all killed if they did not go out of it; now it may be some might believe what this Man said; and yet for some Reasons might stay in the House: Others might not believe what the Man said; and yet for some Reasons might go out of the House: And suppose that the House should fall at the ⟨p. 79⟩two Hours End, it would not be their believing what this Man said that would save their Lives, but their going out of the House, and if they went out of the House their Lives would be saved, whether they believed what this Man said or no, so (Chubb said) it was not Men's believing any Thing Christ or his Apostles said that would save them, but their living moral Lives; for if they did so the whole End and Design of Christ's coming into the World would be answered; and they should be saved whether ever they heard or believed any Thing about Christ or not.
The Rev. Mr. Clap's Testimony, Page 55, 56, About the 20th of January, I happen'd to be in Company with Mr. Breck, and he said to me these Words, viz. I made some of the People angry at what I preached t'other Day: I reply'd what was that? He said, I preached that the Heathen that lived up to the Light of Nature should be saved without Faith in Christ: And on Mr. Clap's Objecting against his preaching so, Mr. Clap testifies, that he said, why would you not have me preach up the Truth. Mr. Breck said he would preach People out of those false and stingy Notions which they have been taught in; that the common People out of Pride and Self-conceit, confin'd Salvation only to themselves: but I will have them to know that the Heathen may be saved as well as they can; and more to the same Purpose. Page 58, Mr. B—said, Faith in Christ was not in its own Nature necessary to Salvation; and that all that was necessary in order to that End, was that Men should forsake Sin and lead moral Lives; and this Men might do meerly out of Love to Vertue itself; and if Men did but attain the End, it was no Matter what Motive they acted upon; and said he, Master Chubb brings a very ingenious Comparison to illustrate it; and he took down the Book and turned the Place to me, and I read the Comparison, which was after this Manner; Suppose there were a Company of Men in a House, and some Person should come in and tell them that this House would fall in two Hours, and that they should be all killed if they did not go out of it; now it may be some might believe what this Man said; and yet for some Reasons might stay in the House: Others might not believe what the Man said; and yet for some Reasons might go out of the House: And suppose that the House should fall at the ⟨p. 79⟩two Hours End, it would not be their believing what this Man said that would save their Lives, but their going out of the House, and if they went out of the House their Lives would be saved, whether they believed what this Man said or no, so (Chubb said) it was not Men's believing any Thing Christ or his Apostles said that would save them, but their living moral Lives; for if they did so the whole End and Design of Christ's coming into the World would be answered; and they should be saved whether ever they heard or believed any Thing about Christ or not.
