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A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by…A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by…
A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation wherein the same is declared, by the confession of their own writers, to have no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the judgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our ancestors: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.A discussion of the popish doctrine of transubstantiation vvherein the same is declared, by the confession of their owne writers, to haue no necessary ground in Gods Word: as also it is further demonstrated to be against Scripture, nature, sense, reason, religion, and the iudgement of t5xxauncients, and the faith of our auncestours: written by Thomas Gataker B. of D. and pastor of Rotherhith.
London: printed by John for William Sheffard, 1624London: printed by Iohn for William Sheffard, 1624
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3. Do we alone thus expound that place? Do not very many of their own writers herein agree with us? Or do those of theirs build only upon the clause he here mentioneth? To which purpose, howsoever enough hath already been said, yet for his better information concerning both the soundness of our exposition of that place, and the reasons thereof drawn from our Saviours own words, let him hear one, though not then Pope, yet that afterward came to be Pope, and was as learned a Pope as any of late times. Aeneas Syluius writing against the Bohemians; sIt is not (saith he) any sacramental drinking, but a spiritual that our Saviour speaketh of in that 6. of John. For there is, as Albertus Magnus she weth, a threefold drinking of Christ: a sacramental, that the Priests only receive; an intellectual, that the people take in the species of bread; and a spiritual, which all use that are to be saved, by daily devout meditation ruminating on Christs incarnation and his passion: And of this drinking our Saviour speaketh in John 6. as the very series of the Evangelists words clearly showeth. For when some of them that heard it, murmured, our Saviour said, tDoth this scandalize you? What if you should see the Son of Man ascend where before he was? It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing. In which words he declareth that he speaketh not there of any carnal eating or drinking: But would you plainly see that he speaketh of spiritual eating, that is, by faith? Mark what he saith: uHe that eateth and drinketh. He speaketh in the present tense, not in the future. There were even then those that so ate him and drank him, when as the Sacrament was not yet instituted. And how did they then eat and drink Christ, but spiritually by faith, and love, and doing his words? For he said also before, xI am ⟨p. 211⟩the bread of life; he that cometh unto me, shall not hunger; and he that believeth in me shall not thirst. For Christs speech was figurative. So also the Glosser understandeth this Gospel: and so doth that great Augustine, noble both for doctrine and modesty, whose glory is so great, that no mans commendation can add to his credit, no mans dispraise can disparage him. And yet dare this shameless outfacer confidently affirm that none of the Fathers ever so expounded the place: