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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Think? Nay you may be sure that he meant not. For in the same place, upon the words that you rehearsed, I (saith he) have always denied this consequence: 1Somewhat is forged and added to the donation of Constantine; therefore all is forged. For it is certain that Constantine gave many things to the Church of Rome: but 2more things a great deal have come unto it other whence, either by the gifts of Princes and rich men, or by the testament of the godly, or by the purchasing of Popes, by exchange, and so forth, and the dispensation and providence of God. So that in Genebrards judgement Pope Sylvester and his successors have gotten a great deal more by other means, then by Constantine's donation. But they have not gotten more then the greater donation of Constantine in the decrees doth give them. For it doth give them all the provinces, places, and cities of Italy, and other countries of the west. In Genebrards judgement therefore the greater donation of Constantine is forged: and that which he defendeth must be the lesser only.
Rainoldes. Thinke? Nay you may be sure that he meant not. For in the same place, vpon the wordes that you rehearsed, I (saith he) haue alwaies denied this consequence: 1Somewhat is forged and added to the donation of Constantine; therfore al is forged. For it is certaine that Constantine gaue many thinges to the Church of Rome: but 2more thinges a great deale haue come vnto it other whence, either by the giftes of Princes and rich men, or by the testament of the godly, or by the purchasing of Popes, by exchange, and so forth, and the dispensation and prouidence of God. So that in Genebrards iudgement Pope Syluester and his successors haue gotten a great deale more by other meanes, then by Constantines donation. But they haue not gotten more then the greater donation of Constantine in the decrees doth giue them. For it doth giue them all the prouinces, places, and cities of Italie, and other countries of the west. In Genebrards iudgement therefore the greater donation of Constantine is forged: and that which he defendeth must be the lesser onely.