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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Whereas Gregory meaneth the lands of the Church and Bishopric of Rome by S. Peters patrimony; not the dominion temporal, which they had not then. But in these faults you are the more excusable, because you do follow the footsteps of Genebrard: whose 1Century-writers, and 2perhaps, and 3kingdom, and 4sophistry might bring you to them unawares. In the next your shame can no way be covered. For whereas your lodesman, having searched Gregory's epistles of purpose for S. Peters patrimony, could find it in no more places but in those which you rehearsed by name: you thinking such flies too small for the Pope, do add (with flat untruth) and many other countries: beside that [other countries] is brought in so too, as if Campania, Naples, and Italy, were sundry count•ies, where Naples is a town, Campania a shire of Italy. And yet as though your dealing were sincere and sound, you knit it up thus, that seeing for this which is the greatest part, so good proofs may be made: no doubt but the Popes can show very good evidence when need shall require for sundry other very great and large gifts which were bestowed upon their See, by divers Princes, many Nobles, men, and women. The question is of the temporal dominion of the Popes. The proof you bring thereof from Constantine, is forged; from Gregory, is fond. So that no part is proved yet, much less the greatest. The chiefest of the rest that Popes can show for it, is Pippins donation, and the successors of Pippin. In it I have convinced them also of usurping: who first did beg and take the territories, and ditions, which should have been restored to their old Lord the Emperor; and afterward did use their n•w Lord as a vassal, and made themselves sovereigns of that which was given them to hold in fee. To be short, the vanity of this vaunt of evidence, which the Popes can show when need shall require, may be perceived by mEugubinus, their attorney general, and principal proctor in this cause. Who being inflamed with a Popish devotion to say the best that he knew, and furnished with the treasures of the Popes library to know