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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. What is that to the purpose? Doth he speak of the Popes epistles?
Hart. What is that to the purpose? Doth he speake of the Popes epistles?
Rainoldes. No: but their epistles are like to that book in sundry respects. It is ancient: it was printed above a hundred years ago. And he, who set it forth, saith that Ovid wrote it in his old age, and willed it to be laid up in his grave with him: in the which grave it was found at length by the inhabitants of the country who sent it to Constantinople, and the Emperor gave it to Leo his principal notary, who did publish it. A smooth tale, to make men believe that it is Ovids. Of whom though it savour no more, then these epistles of the Bishops of Rome: yet if your Divines could find some antic verse there that were an evidence for the Popes supremacy, I see my former reasons would not dissuade you from believing but Ovid wrote the book. For, to the barbarousness and baseness of the Latin and style, if I should urge it, you might answer that Ovid wrote so for two causes: that he might not seem to be vain gloriously given, and that his repentance might be known even to the simplest. To the silence of witnesses, that no man maketh mention of it amongst his works, you might answer that it lay hidden in his grave. And this you might answer with greater show of likelihood, then that the Popes epistles lay hidden in the Popes library. But unto the matters of which the book entreateth, and things that it discourseth on, no shadow of defence can be made with any reason. For hit ⟨p. 519⟩speaketh in the praise of the virgin Mary, that 1God shall give her to be our mediatress, and 2shall assumpt her into heaven, and place her in a throne with him: yea, the author