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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. Nay, I do think it, or rather I do know it to be more unlikely, that they should so allege the scriptures as they do, then that Ovid should allude to Solomon, or cite Moses. For kthe books of Moses (l perhaps of Solomon too) were translated into Greek by the Seventy interpreters many a year before Ovid: and he might have read them. But your common Latin translation of the old testament, made (a great part of it) by S. Jerome out of the Hebrew, (whence it is called S. Jeromes,) could not be seen by Anacletus and other ancient Bishops of Rome. For they were deceased before he was borne. And yet all their epistles do allege the scriptures after that translation. An evident token, that the writer of them did live after S. Jerome: yea, a great while after him, as may be deemed probably. For the common Latin translation, which the ancient Latin Fathers used, was made out of the Greek of the Seventy interpreters. Tertullian, Cyprian, Hilary, Ambrose, and other of the same ages, show it in all their writings. Nether was that old translation forsaken straight ways, as soon as Jerome had set forth his new. For mAustin, who saw Jeromes, preferred still the old translation before it. nGregory, who lived about two hundred years after, doth use them both indifferently (because the Church of Rome did so,) obut liketh better of the new. And so in process of time the new translation ⟨p. 520⟩did prevail, and the old was wholly left: save in the Psalms only, which being sung in Churches had taken deeper root then could be plucked up by Jerome. Now, sith those epistles of the Bishops of Rome do allege the scriptures after that translation which the Fathers called the new, pyou call the old, and it was so long after Jeromes time before that translation was grown to such credit that it had shut the other out: it is probable that they were written long after, but whether long or short, it is certain that they were written after Jeromes time.