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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. That refuge will not serve, unless you prove two things, whereof neither is true. One, that this sovereignty was the right of Peter: an other, that the Pope succeedeth him in all his right. By the way, what soever you deem of his right: you grant that he doth not succeed him in modesty.
Rainoldes. That refuge will not serue, vnlesse you proue two things, whereof neither is true. One, that this soueraintie was the right of Peter: an other, that the Pope succeedeth him in all his right. By the way, what soeuer you déeme of his right: you graunt that he doth not succéed him in modestie.
Hart. It is not expedient for him to do in every thing as Peter did.1 But, that he succeedeth Peter in all his right: I will prove then, when I have proved Peters right. Now, that this sovereignty was the right of Peter, and that he had as full power in the assemblies of the Apostles, as the Prince hath in a Parliament, or the Pope in a Council: S. Chrysostoms words were not all so pregnant upon the first of the Acts *as S. Jeromes are upon the fifteenth, to prove it invincibly. For the teacheth plainly that Peter was the first man who gave the sentence: which sentence being followed and approved by the rest, was concluded and published in the name of the whole Council, both of the head and of the body. 1When they, saith he, had heard Peter, all the ⟨p. 161⟩multitude held their peace: & James & all the Elders together did agree unto Peters sentence.
Hart. It is not expedient for him to doo in euery thing as Peter did.