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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. I bring not Waldensis for his own credit: but, as interpreter of S. Jeromes meaning. Howbeit, though he were not himself an ancient writer: he was a great Clerk in the time he lived.
Hart. I bring not Waldensis for his owne credit: but, as interpreter of S. Ieroms meaning. Howbeit, though he were not himselfe an auncient writer: he was a great Clerke in the time he liued.
Rainoldes. It may be: such a one as gave occasion to the proverb, that the greatest Clerks are not the wisest men. He did never enter into the Roman Senate-house: or else he might have learned, both, that 1the prince of the Senate (as he was termed) gave his sentence first, yet was not President of the Senate: neither was his sentence the definitive sentence, but he spake his mind of the matter, (as others after him,) & the whole 2Senate defined it. Though oftentimes the Senate agreed to the sentence of some one Senator, & him they did call 3prince of the sentence, that is to say, the first author: as Jerome calleth Peter 4prince of the decree; which himself expoundeth, 5the first author of the sentence. Wherefore it was not malapertness in Peter to speak before others, although he were not the President of the Council: but indeed Waldensis was a malapert fellow to vouch that of Peter, and use S. Jeromes words thereto. For, that they prove not a Presidentship of Peter, by entitling Peter prince of the decree, you may learn of 6Tully: who showeth that himself was prince of decrees, when he was neither President nor prince of the Senate. Beside, (to let you see the poverty of this princehood farther) Jerome doth not mean the whole decree of the Council; when he saith that Peter was the prince of it; (for them he should deny the