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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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and was not he the king, and she a subject to him? Are we not all taught nto go one before an other in giving honour, as well the rich as the poor, as well the high as the low? What a proud and arrogant mind had *that body (unless his mind and tongue dissented) who thought that he must give honour to no man, but to them only that are in power above him. Belike this divinity was learned out of that chapter of the book of Ceremonies (which I touched afore) othat the Pope doth do reverence to no man, of duty and right: for then he ⟨p. 169⟩is afraid least it should be thought that some man is in power above him. Yet pin the same book (to see a good nature) we read that *he did honour Frederick the Emperor: in so much that he placed him next unto him self above all the Cardinals; and 1the place in which the Emperor did sit, was no lower then the place, where the Pope did hold his feet. Now, the seat of the Emperor declareth, that the Pope was above him in power: and yet the Pope 2did honour him. Paul therefore might have been above Peter in power, though he did honour Peter. If he might: the honour, which he gave to Peter, doth strike no stroke for the supremacy. Wherefore you may dismiss it as a coward out of the field, not fit to fight the Popes battles. Doth not this mine answer touch [honour] taken properly? Or will you set the Emperor above the Pope in power? Or is it a lie that the Pope did honour him?
and was not he the king, and she a subiect to him? Are we not all taught nto go one before an other in giuing honour, as well the rich as the poore, as well the high as the lowe? What a proud and arrogant mind had