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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. What needs all this of Ferus? Or Sixtus? Or Canonists? Or I know not who? You called me to the scriptures, when I brought the Fathers: and now from the scriptures you bring me to writers of our own age.
Hart. What néedes all this of Ferus? Or Sixtus? Or Canonistes? Or I know not who? You called me to the scriptures, whē I brought the Fathers: and now from the scriptures you bring me to writers of our owne age.
Rainoldes. Not from the scriptures to them: but to the scriptures by them. As Christ, when the Pharisees slandered his works, zalleged the example of their own children thereby to make them see the truth. And as he said to them, therefore your children shall be your judges: so I say to you, therefore your brethren shall be your judges.
Rainoldes. Not from the scriptures to them: but to the scriptures by them. As Christ, when the Phariseis sclaundered his workes, zalleaged the example of their own children therby to make them sée the truth. And as he said to them, therefore your children shall be your iudges: so I say to you, therefore your brethren shall be your iudges.
Hart. I grant that the Pope doth not in all respects submit him self, as Peter, to give account of his doings, both to the Apostles, and to inferior Christians. But Ferus should have considered, and so must you, that the times are not like. It were not convenient for him to do so now.