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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. He saith git is so common a practise of heretics to allege the scripture, that they never bring almost ought of their own, but they seek to shadow it with words of scripture too. And having showed this by sundry examples, he addeth that htherein they follow the practise of the Devil, their master. Who took our Saviour Christ, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the son of God, cast thy self down: For it is written, that he will give his Angels charge over thee, that they shall keep thee in all thy ways: with their hands they shall lift thee up, least perhaps thou dash thy foot against a stone. If thou, saith he, be the son of God, cast thy self down. Why? For it is written. We must with great heed observe and remember the doctrine of this place: that when we see words of the Prophets or Apostles brought forth by any men against the Catholic faith, we way be assured by this great example of the authority of the Gospel, that the Devil doth speak by them. Thus saith that ancient Father, Vincē tius Lirinensis. Whose words do manifestly disprove your opinion, that the truth of points in faith should be tried by the scripture only.
Hart. He saith git is so common a practise of heretikes to alleage the scripture, that they neuer bring almost ought of their own, but they seeke to shadow it with words of scripture too. And hauing shewed this by sundry examples, he addeth that htherein they folow the practise of the Deuill, their maister. Who tooke our Sauiour Christ, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said vnto him, If thou be the sonne of God, cast thy selfe down: For it is written, that he will giue his Angels charge ouer thee, that they shall kepe thee in all thy waies: with their hands they shall lift thee vp, least perhaps thou dash thy foote against a stone. If thou, saith he, be the sonne of God, cast thy selfe down. Why? For it is written. We must with great heede obserue and remember the doctrine of this place: that when we see words of the Prophets or Apostles brought foorth by any men against the Catholike faith, we way be assured by this great example of the authoritie of the Gospel, that the Deuil doth speake by them. Thus saith that auncient Father, Vincē tius Lirinensis. Whose words do manifestly disproue your opinion, that the truth of pointes in faith should be tryed by the scripture onely.