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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Rainoldes. If Erasmus did this, not of error, but of malice, for hatred which he bare to monks, as Torrensis suspecteth that he did: it were a great crime, and worthy to be published in print unto the world. But if he did it not of hatred, & malice, if he did it not at all, if he did the contrary, if he reproved the party by whom it was done, and him self redressed it: how will Torrensis make amends to Erasmus, whom he hath defamed with so lewd a slander? The sermons, entitled to the Eremite Friars, were impudently forged under S. Austins name, by some who was him self of that order belike, and gladly would have gotten credit to his order by the title of such a patron. Erasmus hath marked the most of these sermons with a note of infamy. Wherein, if he committed any offence, it was, that he marked no more of them so, not that he marked the most. For, ryour Lovan-Censors do set them out all with as good a note; affirming, not only, that they are 1forged, and 2known certainly to be written under S. Austins name, 3by some petty-latinist, 4a rhetorical mongrel, demy-French, demy-Flemish, as Lipsius doth gather by certain words and phrases: but also that they were reproved and condemned 5by an officer of the Popes above eight score years since, and written both largely and learnedly against by 6Malburne of Brussels. This Flemish-French-man then, as he endeavoured to write his sermons Austin-like, that men might think them to be S. Austins own: so he interlarded them with two treatises, which were in deed Austins, but uttered to the people of his own Church, and not to Eremite Friars. Erasmus, when he set forth S. Austins works first, espied the fraud and opened it: neither did he only remove them both thence, but also left this *