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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Hart. Not so: for we have kept also that reading [ipse] even in our vulgar Latin translation. For othe Divines of Lovan do note that it is found in two written copies. And we do confess it to be more agreeable both to the Hebrew text, and the Chaldee paraphrase, & the Greek translation: yea that S. Jerome read it so too: as you may see in the Notations of pFranciscus Lucas, to which our latin Bibles (set forth by the Divines of Lovan) do refer you.
Hart. Not so: for we haue kept also that reading [ipse] euen in our vulgar Latin translation. For othe Diuines of Louan do note that it is found in two writen copies. And we do confesse it to be more agréeable both to the Hebrewe text, and the Chaldee paraphrase, & the Greeke translation: yea that S. Ierom read it so too: as you may see in the Notations of pFranciscus Lucas, to which our latin Bibles (set forth by the Diuines of Louan) doo referre you.
- oIn Bibliis excusis Antuerp. 8. Plantino.
- pNotations in sacra Biblia, quibus, va•iantia discrepantibus exemplaribus loca discutiuntur: author Francisco Luca Brugensi, S. Theologiae Liccutiato.Notationes in sacra Biblia, quibus, va•iantia discrepantibus exemplaribus loca discutiuntur: autore Francisco Luca Brugensi, S. Theologiae Liccutiato.
Rainoldes. Yet Franciscus Lucas doth wrangle still about it: and saith, that all the Latin copies, which they could find do read it [ipsa;] and of the two, which you mention, he doubteth, whether one did follow the Latin or the Hebrew; and he maketh show of proof that the Hebrew may well agree to the Latin, with a little hammering of it. Yea, and that is more, as in all the Bibles, that I have seen of yours, the Latin hath ipsa, not ipse, shee, not he; though