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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. I deny not, but the sword of justice is given to the civil magistrate: and so there is a difference between the judge & the Priest. Yet amongst the Jews sometimes both the offices did meet in one person, as you may see by kEli.
Hart. I denye not, but the sworde of iustice is giuen to the ciuil magistrate: and so there is a difference betwéene the iudge & the Priest. Yet amongst the Iewes sometimes both the offices did méete in one person, as you may séee by kEli.
Rainoldes. But this was very rare, & extraordinary. Now the Law, which God prescribed in Deuteronomy by his servant Moses, did touch the common state and ordinary government of the people of Israel. For both it is general without limitation of persons or times, as to be kept still for the ending of their controversies, not only in the days of Eli: and it is written, that when king Jehoshaphat restored the state decayed, lin Jerusalem he set of the Levites and the Priests, and of the chief of the families of Israel, for the judgements of the Lord and for controversies. Which to have been done in respect of that law: it appeareth by the words that he spake unto them. mWhatsoever controversy shall come unto you, from your brethren who dwell in their cities, between blood and blood, between law and precept, statutes and judgements: do ye admonish them that they offend not against the Lord. Wherefore seeing that the law in Deuteronomy, was made to establish a highest court of judgement, in which all harder causes ecclesiastical and civil should be determined without appeal farther: the reason and the practise of the law do show, that, in respect of the two kinds of causes, there were ordained two sorts of men to hear them, ecclesiastical, and civill; the civill meant by the judge, the ecclesiastical, by the Priest. Who because they were distinct, as in office, so in person too ordinarily: it followeth thereof, that the Priest was not meant by the judge.