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The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head…The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head…
The sum of the conference between John Rainoldes and John Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundry points, of the sufficiency and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministry of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the mass, with other controversies of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-government ... Penned by John Rainoldes, according to the notes set down in writing by them both: perused by John Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithful report of that which past in conference between them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise entitled, Six conclusions touching the Holy Scripture and the Church, written by John Rainoldes. With a defence of such things as Thomas Stapleton and Gregory Martin have carped at therein.The summe of the conference betwene Iohn Rainoldes and Iohn Hart touching the head and the faith of the Church. Wherein by the way are handled sundrie points, of the sufficiencie and right expounding of the Scriptures, the ministerie of the Church, the function of priesthood, the sacrifice of the masse, with other controuerises of religion: but chiefly and purposely the point of Church-gouernment ... Penned by Iohn Rainoldes, according to the notes set downe in writing by them both: perused by Iohn Hart, and (after things supplied, & altered, as he thought good) allowed for the faithfull report of that which past in conference betwene them. Whereunto is annexed a treatise intitled, Six conclusions touching the Holie Scripture and the Church, writen by Iohn Rainoldes. With a defence of such thinges as Thomas Stapleton and Gregorie Martin haue carped at therein.
Londini: printed by John Wolfe, 1584Londini: printed by Iohn Wolfe, 1584
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Hart. You take much pains in vain with this talk about the Hebrew ▪ For I will not yield one jot from the decree of the Council of Trent. Wherefore if you can prove out of our authentical latin translation, that the Priest is not meant by the judge, in that place of Deuteronomy: I will hearken to you. Otherwise you may allege the Hebrew against the Jews: for it shall never move me.
Hart. You take much paines in vaine with this talke about the Hebrue ▪ For I will not yéelde one iot from the decrée of the Councell of Trent. Wherefore if you can proue out of our authenticall latin translation, that the Priest is not meant by the iudge, in that place of Deuteronomie: I will harken to you. Otherwise you may alleage the Hebrue against the Iewes: for it shall neuer moue me.
Rainoldes. I am sorry, if you be so frowardly set. Yet well fare hAndradius, who thinketh that the Council of Trent did not mean either to condemn the Hebrew trueth (as he calleth it,) or to acquit the latin translation from all error, when they named it authentical: but only, that the latin hath no such error, by which any pestilent opinion in faith and manners may be gathered. But if you will not be moved with the Hebrew: what say you to the 1Chaldee paraphrase? Or if that also have as small credit, because it expresseth the Hebrew so faithfully in the books of Moses: what say you to the Greek of the seventy interpreters? Which ithe ancient Fathers who either knew not your latin at all, or had it not in such price, did marvellously esteem off. In 2them it is as in the Hebrew, to the Priest or the judge: whereby it is apparent they thought the judge, one; and the Priest, another. Will you be moved by them: or may I allege the Greek against the Grecians too?