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The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wiseThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise
The Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Divided into three parts, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take great pleasure in the reading thereof. Translated out of French into English, by John Brooke of AsheThe Christian disputations, by Master Peter Viret. Deuided into three partes, dialogue wise: set out with such grace, that it cannot be, but that a man shall take greate pleasure in the reading thereoff. Translated out of French into English, by Iohn Brooke of Ashe
London: printed by Thomas East, 1579
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Theophilus. Thou comest now to the matter. If then Saint Peter hath not below the Heaven power to absolve us, nor they of the other world, those which are in this here, how shall the Pope have more power, for ⟨p. 275⟩so absolve below the earth, and they of this world, those 1which are in the other? Sith that he attributeth unto himself the office of saint Peter, for that that Saint Peter is absent from those that are living wherefore […] not content himself with the living. What hath he to do with the dead? If in the other world there be an premission of sins, and the […] of the […]: […] take place, wherefore doth he not leave […] of the same unto Saint Peter, and to the Prophets, Apostles, Martyrs and confessors which are there. For if it be needful to pardon sins to the dead in the other world, those which are there present, and know their […] they not better do it then the Pope: […] which […] ••• sent, and altogether ignorant […] estate and condition? They say that they cannot pardon sins to those that be alive, nor absolve them except they confess themselves unto them ••• to know and judge of them how can they […] and give […] unto the souls of the dead, […] not, and […] confession, nor know whether they be […] or not whether they be detained •. hell […] Purgatory, or already 2passed and arrived into […] I […] think that a lieutenant is […] the place of an other; which cannot […] prop•• person. Then if the Pope be the […] of Saint Peter: in this world, because that S. Peter is no more here, how can he be his lieutenant in the other world, in which Saint Peter is, and he is not? Behold a sort of lieutenants, the most strangest that ever was in the world. For in steed to hold and keep the place, in which they ought to be pr• sent, in the name of those that are absent they being absent, would hold the place in which they cannot be in the name of those which are there present. Wherefore I would counsel the Pope and his, to let the dead alone from henceforth, and to meddle no more with them, and that they do leave the charge unto Saint Peter and to