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An answer to the Ten reasons of Edmund Campian the Jesuit in confidence whereof…An ansvvere to the Ten reasons of Edmund Campian the Iesuit in confidence wherof…
An answer to the Ten reasons of Edmund Campian the Jesuit in confidence whereof he offered disputation to the ministers of the Church of England, in the controversy of faith. Whereunto is added in brief marginal notes, the sum of the defence of those reasons by John Duræus the Scot, being a priest and a Jesuit, with a reply unto it. Written first in the Latin tongue by the reverend and faithful servant of Christ and his Church, William Whitakers, Doctor in Divinity, and the Kings Professor and public reader of Divinity in the University of Cambridge. And now faithfully translated for the benefit of the unlearned (at the appointment and desire of some in authority) into the English tongue; by Richard Stock, preacher in London. ...An ansvvere to the Ten reasons of Edmund Campian the Iesuit in confidence wherof he offered disputation to the ministers of the Church of England, in the controuersie of faith. Whereunto is added in briefe marginall notes, the summe of the defence of those reasons by Iohn Duræus the Scot, being a priest and a Iesuit, with a reply vnto it. Written first in the Latine tongue by the reuerend and faithfull seruant of Christ and his Church, William Whitakers, Doctor in Diuinitie, and the Kings Professor and publike reader of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Cambridge. And now faithfully translated for the benefit of the vnlearned (at the appointment and desire of some in authoritie) into the English tongue; by Richard Stocke, preacher in London. ...
London: printed by Felix Kyngston for Cuthbert Burby and Edmund Weaver, 1606London: printed by Felix Kyngston for Cuthbert Burby and Edmund Weauer, 1606
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Why Nicholas and Martinus should be yours, you show no cause, for wearing hair-cloth, fasting and watching, are no marks of your Bishops. Benedict (say you) was the founder and father of the Monkish profession, therefore without doubt he must be yours. I could be content to leave him, as too superstitious, yet can you not prove that he was yours, or favoured your religion in all or the most things. Here you say you pass over thousands, Francis I think you mean, and Dominic, and those huge swarms of white Friars and black Friars: I freely bequeath them unto you, and willingly suffer you to enjoy them, and all such as were like them. They were not of that worth that we should need greatly to strive about them. You pass over the Doctors in silence, which you formerly remembered; wherein I commend your wisdom, seeing to them you can make no claim without doing them too apparent wrong. You demand of all those before recited, whether they were Catholics or Lutherans; to which I will answer, when you have showed how Lutheranism dissenteth from true Catholic religion. Luther taught no new doctrine, he restored and maintained the ancient Catholic ⟨p. 308⟩faith. What though he was unknown unto those ancient Fathers, as being himself of later years, yet the doctrine he brought was Evangelical and Apostolic, which you had wellnigh extinguished, which he restored to his former beauty and perfection. Answer me (Campian) this one thing; of all those you have named, what one was ao Thomist, Scotist, Dominican, Franciscan, or Jesuit? when you have answered me touching those, I will answer as touching Luther. You call the Throne of God to witness, that if there be any heaven at all, it is proper to you. In any case avouch this boldly and confidently; though he that looks into your lines may well think there is no heaven at all. For neither will you enter into heaven your selves, nor suffer those that would; and the lives of those of your side are such, as are far fitter for hell then for heaven. I know not (Campian) what heaven you dream of; if you mean the eternal habitation of God, and his Saints, I take God to witness the maker of this palace, and all the heavenly citizens, that there no place can be for you Papists, false Catholics, Jesuits. As you have devised a new faith whereby you must enter thither, so must you seek a new heaven;
Why Nicholas and Martinus should be yours, you shew no cause, for wearing haire-cloth, fasting and watching, are no marks of your Bishops. Benedict (say you) was the founder and father of the Monkish profession, therefore without doubt he must be yours. I could be content to leaue him, as too superstitious, yet can you not prooue that he was yours, or fauoured your religion in all or the most things. Heere you say you passe ouer thousands, Francis I thinke you meane, and Dominicke, and those huge swarmes of white Friers and blacke Friers: I freely bequeath them vnto you, and willingly suffer you to enioy them, and all such as were like them. They were not of that worth that we should need greatly to striue about them. You passe ouer the Doctors in silence, which you formerly remembred; wherein I commend your wisedome, seeing to them you can make no claime without doing them too apparant wrong. You demaund of all those before recited, whether they were Catholicks or Lutheranes; to which I will answere, when you haue shewed how Lutheranisme dissenteth frō true Catholick religion. Luther taught no new doctrine, he restored and mainteined the auncient Catholicke