A18078:199
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.
printed by John Stroud?, 1573
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Whereas you conclude / that these contentions would be soon ended / if M. Calvins words were noted / here we will join with you / and will not refuse the judgement of M. Calvin / in any matter that we have in controversy with you. Which I speak not therefore because I would call the decision of controversies to men / and their words (which pertain only to God and to his word) but because I know his judgement in these things to be clean against you / and especially for that you would bear men in hand / that M. Calvin is on your side / and against us. And as for Peter Martyr / and Bucer / and Musculus / and Bullinger / Gualter / and Hemingius / and the rest of the late writers / by citing of whom you would give to understand / that they are against us in these matters / there is set down in the latter end of this book / their several judgements / of the most of these things which are in controversy: whereby it may appear / that if they have spoken one word against us / they have spoken two for us. And whereas they have written (as it is said and alleged in their private letters to their friends) against some of these causes / it may appear / that they have in their works published to the whole world / that they confirm the same causes. So y• if they wrote any such things / they shall be found not so much to have dissented from us / as from them selves: and therefore we appeal from them selves / unto them selves: and from their private notes and letters / to their public writings / as more authentical. You labour still in the fire / that is unprofitably / to bring M. Bucer his Epistle / to prove / that the church may order things / whereof there is no particular and expressed commandment / for there is none denieth it / neither is this saying / that all things are to be done in the church / according to the rule of the word of God / any thing repugnant unto this / that the church may ordain certain things / according to the word of God.
Wheras you conclude / that these contentions woulde be sone ended / if M. Caluins wordes were noted / heere we will ioyne with you / and will not refuse the iudgement of M. Caluin / in any matter that we haue in controuersy wt you. Which I speake not therfore because I would call the decision of controuersies to men / and their words (which pertaine only to God and to his worde) but because I know hys iudgement in these things to be cleane against you / and especially for that you would beare men in hand / that M. Caluin is on your side / and against vs. And as for Peter Martyr / and Bucer / and Musculus / and Bullinger / Gualter / and Hemingius / and the rest of the late wryters / by citing of whom you wold geue to vnderstand / that they are against vs in these matters / there is set downe in the latter end of this boke / their seuerall iudgements / of the most of these things whych are in controuersy: whereby it may appeare / that if they haue spoken one word against vs / they haue spoken two for vs. And wheras they haue wrytten (as it is sayde and alleaged in their priuate letters to their freendes) againste some of these causes / it may appeare / that they haue in their workes published to the whole world / that they confirme the same causes. So y if they wrote any such thyngs / they shall be founde not so much to haue dissented from vs / as from them selues: and therefore we appeale from them selues / vnto them selues: and from their priuate notes and letters / to their publike wrytings / as more autenticall. You labor still in the fire / that is vnprofitably / to bring M. Bucer hys Epistle / to proue / that the church may order things / wherof there is no particular and expressed commaundement / for there is none denieth it / neither is thys saying / that all things are to be done in the churche / according to the rule of the word of God / any thing repugnant vnto this / that the church may ordaine certaine thyngs / according to the word of God.