A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…

And Socrates sayeth of the church of Rome and Alexandria (which were the most famous churches in the apostles times) that about the year. 430. the Romaine and Alexandrian bishops / leaving the sacred function / were degenerate to a secular rule or dominion. Whereupon we see how that it is safe for us to go to the scriptures / and to the apostles times / for to fetch our government and order. And that it is very dangerous to draw from those rivers / the fountains whereof are troubled and corrupted / especially when as the ways whereby they run / are muddier and more fenny / then is the head it self.

And Socrates sayeth of the church of Rome and Alexandria (which were the most famous churches in the apostles times) that about the yeare. 430. the Romaine and Alexandrian byshops / leauing the sacred function / were degenerate to a seculare rule or dominion. Wherevpon we see howe that it is safe for vs to go to the scriptures / and to the apostles times / for to fetch our gouernmēt and order. And that it is very dangerous to drawe from those riuers / the fountaines wherof are troubled and corrupted / especially when as the wayes whereby they runne / are muddier and more fennie / then is the head it selfe.

And although M. Doctor hath brought neither scripture / nor reason / nor council / wherein there is either name of archbishop or archdeacon / or proved that there may be / & although he show not so much as the name of them. 400. years after our saviour Christ. And although where he showeth them / they be either by counterfeit authors / or without any word of approbation of good authors / yet as though he had showed all / and proved all / having showed nothing / nor proved nothing / he clappeth the hands to himself / and putteth the crown upon his own head / saying / that those that be learned / may easily understand / that the names / archbishop / archdeacon / primate / patriarch / be most ancient and approved of the eldest / best / worthiest councils / fathers / writers. And a little afterward / that they are unlearned / and ignorant / which say otherwise.

And although M. Doctor hathe brought neither scripture / nor reason / nor councel / wherin there is either name of archbishop or archdeacon / or proued that there may be / & although he shewe not so much as the name of them. 400. yeres after our sauioure Christ. And although where he sheweth them / they be eyther by counterfait authors / or wythout any worde of approbation of good authors / yet as though he had shewed all / and proued all / hauing shewed nothing / nor proued nothing / he clappeth the hands to himselfe / and putteth the crowne vpon hys owne heade / saying / that those that be learned / may easely vnderstande / that the names / archbishop / archdeacon / primate / patriarche / be most auncient and approued of the eldest / best / worthiest councels / fathers / wryters. And a little afterward / that they are vnlearned / and ignorant / whych say otherwise.