A18078:918
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to…A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to…
A reply to an answer made of M. Doctor Whitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.A replye to an ansvvere made of M. Doctor VVhitgifte Against the admonition to the Parliament. By T.C.
printed by John Stroud?, 1573
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And as for the reasons which M. doctor bringeth to establish them in the 225. page / as that they are necessary (which he doth barely say) and that s. Aug. alloweth of a Dean / and that the authors of the Admonition are instruments of those which desire the spoil of them / and that a man may as well speak against universities & colleges / as against them / I have answered before / saving that it is to be feared / that colleges in universities (if M. doctor may work y• which he goeth about) will shortly be in little better case / then those cathedral churches / which not only by his own example / but with might and main / and all endeavour possible / goeth about to fill and fraught them with Non residences, and such as have charges of churches in other places: which do no good in the university / and partly are such as can do none / only are pernicious examples of riotous feasting and making great cheer / with the prays and spoils which they bring out of the country to the great hurt of the university presently / and utter ruin of it hereafter / onles speedy remedy be therefore provided. And where he saith it is not material / although these deans / vicedeanes / canons / petty canons / prebendaries. &c. come from the pope / it is as if he should say / that it skilleth not although they come out of the bottomless pit. For whatsoever cometh from the Pope which is Antichrist / cometh first from the devil: and where he addeth this condition (if it be good. &c.) in deed if of the eggs of a cockatrice can be made wholesome meat to feed with / or of a spiders web any cloth to cover with all / then also may the things that come from the Pope and the Devil / be good / profitable / and necessary unto the church. And where he sayeth that collegiate churches are of great auncientie / he proveth not the auncientie of the cathedral churches / onles he prove that cathedral and collegiate be all one. But I will not stick with him for so small a matter / & if our controversy were of the names of these churches ⟨p. 205⟩/ and not of the matter / I could be content to grant his cause in this point as good as antiquity without the word of God (which is nothing but rottenness) could make it. But for so much as those ancient collegiate churches were no more like unto these which we have now / then things most unlike:
And as for the reasons which M. doctor bringeth to establishe them in the 225. page / as that they are necessary (whych he doth barely say) and that s. Aug. alloweth of a Deane / and that the authors of the Admonition are instruments of those whych desire the spoile of them / and that a man may as well speake against vniuersities & colledges / as against them / I haue answeared before / sauing that it is to be feared / that colledges in vniuersities (if M. doctor may worke y which he goeth about) wil shortly be in little better case / then those cathedral churches / whych not only by hys own example / but wyth might and maine / and al endeuor possyble / goeth about to fill and fraught them wyth Non residences, and suche as haue charges of churches in other places: whych do no good in the vniuersitye / and partly are such as can do none / only are pernicious examples of riotous feasting and making greate cheare / wyth the prayes and spoyles whych they bryng out of the country to the great hurt of the vniuersity presently / and vtter ruine of it hereafter / onles spedy remedy be therfore prouided. And wher he sayth it is not material / although these deanes / vicedeanes / canons / peticanōs / prebēdaries. &c. come from the pope / it is as if he shoulde saye / that it skilleth not although they come out of the bottomles pit. For whatsoeuer commeth from the Pope which is Antichrist / commeth first from the deuill: and where he addeth thys condition (if it be good. &c.) in deede if of the egges of a cockatrice can be made holesome meate to feede with / or of a spiders webbe any cloth to couer with all / then also may the things that come from the Pope and the Deuill / be good / profitable / and necessary vnto the church. And where he sayeth that collegiate churches are of great auncientie / he proueth not the auncientie of the cathedrall churches / onles he proue that cathedrall and collegiate be all one. But I will not sticke wyth hym for so small a matter / & if our controuersy were of the names of these churches