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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And if yet the D. be off that boldness / that without any proof out of antiquity / he will expound this word all, by some, or (as he doth in the next divis.) by many: and whole by part, and that the smallest part: and people by citizens, to the open violence off Cyprian's words: yet that all his starting holes may be stopped / let us further examine the place of Cyprian / out of which he would confirm the office off the archbishop. Neither have heresies, or schisms risen of other occasion, then of that the priest of God is not obeyed, nether one priest for the time in the church, and one judge for the time in stead off Christ thought upon: to whom if the whole brotherhood would be obedient &c. To shape an archbishop / or bishop such as is with us / out of this place / the D. is compelled to expound this word church, ⟨p. DXXXVI⟩by Diocese, or Province, Which if it be truly down: then thes words also (the whole brotherhood) must be expounded of all those which are in the Province / or diocese. For both the whole brotherhood are those which belong unto that church: and if there should be any moe in Cyprian's church / than those contained in thes words (the whole brotherhood): it were no remedy against heresies / and schisms / to have the whole brotherhood obedient unto the priest. If I can therefore show / that thes words the 1whole brotherhood, signify only one particular assembly: it must follow that nether Cyprian's bishop is an Archbishop / nor the church there specified / a diocese / or Province / but only a particular congregation. In the next sentence therefore / it is said: in the election off Sabinus, the bishopric was given him, by voice off the whole brotherhood. Now considering that the whole brotherhood did choose Sabinus / and it is certain that nether the whole Province / nor diocese chose him: it is manifest that thes words whole brotherhood, with Cyprian signify not the people off a diocese / or Province / but off one particular church.
And if yet the D. be off that boldnes / that withowte any proofe owt of antiquitie / he will expounde this worde all, by some, or (as he doothe in the nexte diuis.) by manie: and vvhole by parte, and that the smallest parte: and people by cytizens, to the open violence off Cyprians wordes: yet that all his starting holes maie be stopped / let vs further examin the place of Cyprian / owte of which he woulde confirme the office off the archbishop. Neither haue heresies, or schismes rysen of other occasion, then of that the priest of God is not obeied, nether one preist for the time in the church, and one iudge for the time in steede off Christ thovvght vpō: to vvhō if the vvhole brotherhood vvould be obediēt &c. To shape an archbishop / or bishop such as is with vs / owte of this place / the D. is cōpelled to expounde this worde church,