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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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if all those were in one only Province / I am glad to hear of it. If by a Province he mean the fourth part of the world / the Patriarch having then gotten under his gripes / so many metropolitaneships: it was no marvel although the bishops underneath him / drowned as many bishoprics. Besides that it is ridiculous / to allege this example which was long after / against the state of Cyprian's Bishop. Where he saith / by keeping back the place off Cyprian, I ⟨p. DXL⟩give suspicion off forgery: I know not how I could have given him more particular knowledge of it, then in telling him / that it was in the same Epistle / out off which both he alleged his sentence / and I my answer.
yf all those were in one onely Prouince / I am glad to heare of it. If by a Prouince he meane the fourthe parte of the worlde / the Patriarche hauing then gotten vnder his gripes / so manie metropolitaneships: yt was no meruaile althowghe the bishops vndernethe him / drowned as many bishoprickes. Besides that it is ridiculous / to alledge this exāple which was long after / against thestate of Cyprians Bishop. Where he saith / by keping back the place off Cyprian, I ⟨p. DXL⟩gyue suspicion off forgerie: I know not how I could haue giuen him more particular knowledge of it, then in telling him / that yt was in the same Epistle / owte off which both he alledged his sentence / and I my answer.
First I requiring authority to prove / that by the word 1church is understanded a Province: he answereth all learned writers so expound it. He dealeth but hardly which having all: will not vouchsafe to show one. for as for those which he maketh show of afterward: it shall appear how little they serve his purpose. His next answer is / that it is no unaccustomed thing to call the church through a province, by name of the metropolitan seat of the province. If this were accustomed / and in those times wherein Cornelius / and Cyprian lived (for otherwise it is nothing): why doth he let his cause fall / for want of showing it. For where he saith / he hath showed it before: there is no word founding that ways. And Eusebius saying that he did fulfil the office off a Bishop