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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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I would you would omit nothing which might make for your 1purpose: but I would wish that you would not repeat one thing so often. For if they had no good taste at the first: surely by this often seething / they are altogether unsavoury. Cyprian's matter is answered: the division of ecclesiastical functions into three degrees / bishop / Elder (as you say priest) and Deacon / I have 2showed to make flatly against you. There remaineth here / that I answer unto Demetrius. which was about the year off the Lord ⟨p. DXLIII⟩291. Who if he were bishop off so many churches / as is supposed: there is the greater likelihood / that in Cyprian's time there might be bishops of the same breed. First if I grant that he had such a superintendence / over all the parishes off Alexandria and Egypt / as Cyprian is said of Gregory Nazienzen / almost over all the world: that is / that for his learning and godliness / he was sought to off all the bishops of those parts: the Answ. seeth he can gain nothing thereby / to settle ether his bishop / archbishop / or Metropolitan. But I answer / that he hath unfaithfully reported Eusebius / yea and that also pretending to set down the authors words: as appeareth / for that he hath set them in latin. 3Eusebius very words are thes. Laetus was then governor off Alexandria, and the rest of Egypt: and Demetrius then, newly after Julian, received upon him the Bishops office off the parishes there. Here it appeareth that Eusebius saith / that Laetus the magistrate / governed both Alexandria, and Egypt: but speaking of the Bishopric off Demetrius / only saith / he was Bishop off the paris hes there. which when by common construction / it may be aswell referred unto Alexandria only / or unto the rest off Egypt only / or to both together: it was to great boldness / not only to gather this sense of Eusebius / but also to bring him in so speaking. But that the word there, can not be referred unto the rest off Egypt / but only hath relation unto the parishes off Alexandria / and that as there are no such words as you ascribe unto Eusebius / so there can be no such sense as you Imagine: it may easily and clearly be understanded off that before / and after.