A18080:1036
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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He further answereth / that S. Peter calling the Bishops, and Pastors to whom he wrote fellow Elders, was notwithstanding higher in degree then they. I grant: but I deny that therefore S. Peter could exercise dominion over them. When it is said that fellow bishop importeth equality: it is not meant so much for honour / as for equality in authority that one hath over an other. For in honour the bishop off Rome had some preeminence over the Alexandrine / &c. it being granted him to have the first seat in meetings / which notwithstanding had no dominion. Therefore this maketh directly against the dominion off Archbishops. For if Peter in degree off ministry above the pastors / in calling them fellow elders renounced dominion over them: how much more ought they forbear to use dominion over those / with whom they carry the same yoke / and degree off ministry? To that out off Cyprian (none of them toke him self bishop off bishops) he answereth / he meaneth the title off universal bishop: which how absurdly it is spoken / 1may appear by that a before spoken off the African Council. His second answer is a pinch at Cyprian's authority / for that thes words were uttered off him in that Council, where an error was decreed, whereof his was chief author. Where he might with as good right / reject all that ever Cyprian wrote. For albeit this were spoken in that Council: yet it no more pertaineth / nor hath no more acquaintance with that error / then this that we are justified by faith alone. If he would conclude that Cyprian's authority is no sufficient proof / considering that being a man he might err in this point / as he did in another: it is that we willingly grant / and therefore call / and cry upon the D. as loud as we can / that the whole cause may be tried by the scripture: from which he flieth / as Darkness before the face off the light.
He further answereth / that S. Peter calling the Bishops, and Pastors to whom he wrote fellow Elders, was notwithstanding higher in degree then they. I graunt: but I denie that therfore S. Peter could exercise dominion ouer them. When it is saied that fellow bishop importeth equalitie: yt is not ment so much for honour / as for equalitie in autoritie that one hath ouer an other. For in honour the bishop off Rome had some preeminence ouer the Alexandrine / &c. yt being graunted him to haue the first seat in meetinges / which notwithstanding had no dominion. Therfore this maketh directly against the dominion off Archbishops. For if Peter in degree off ministrie aboue the pastors / in calling them fellow elders renounced dominion ouer them: how much more owght they forbeare to vse dominion ouer those / with whom they carie the same yoke / and degree off ministrie? To that owt off Cyprian (none of thē toke him self bishop off bishops) he answereth / he meaneth the title off vniuersall bishop: which how absurdly it is spoken /