The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Before I come to Jeromes testimony / the order off times for the better understanding off this cause / requireth that those both authorities / and examples be answered / which the Answerer hath alleged / both before / out off the Council off Nice and Antioch / and after / pa. 470. &c. The next to the times off Cyprian / is Dionysius Alexandrinus: which (saith he) had under his jurisdiction all the churches in Pentapolis, as Athanasius testifieth in a certain epistle, Apolog 2. First / there is no such thing in all that book / nor in no epistle contained therein. The place he meaneth of / is in an epistle he wrote concerning Dionysius judgement / against the Arian heresy. Then / it is not said (as he reporteth) that all the churches of Pentapolis were under his jurisdiction: but only that he had care of those churches, or (as the translators words be) the care of those churches appertained unto him. Which what little or no weight they have to prove archiepiscopal jurisdiction: shall be seen when we come to the place / where the sense of this to have care, is discussed. In the mean time it is to be observed for better trial of this matter / which I have before noted out of Eusebius: that he succeeded in the bishopric off Alexandria unto his predecessor / without attributing unto him any further charge. And when as Euseb. declareth / that he writing unto the churches in Egypt / wrote unto them by the bare name of the brethren which were in Egypt, without any title betokening any bond / or knot off ministry towards them: and off the other part writing ¹unto the churches in Alexandria / entitleth that writing an exhortation unto his flock: he declareth evidently / that he esteemed Alexandria his proper charge / and that (saving that both in respect Egypt was his country / and the peace of his own church was folded up in the welfare of it) his care for Egypt was general / as for other churches.

Before I come to Ieromes testimonie / the order off tymes for the better vnderstanding off this cause / requireth that those bothe autorities / and examples be answered / which the Answerer hath alledged / bothe before / owte off the Councell off Nice and Antioche / and after / pa. 470. &c. The nexte to the times off Cyprian / is Dionysius Alexandrinus: which (saith he) had vnder his iurisdictiō all the churches in Pentapolis, as Athanasius testifieth in a certeine epistle, Apolog 2. First / there ys no suche thinge in all that booke / nor in no epistle conteined therin. The place he meaneth of / is in an epistle he wrote concerning Dionysius iudgement / againste the Arian heresie. Then / yt ys not saide (as he reporteth) that all the churches of Pentapolis were vnder his iurisdiction: but onely that he had care of those churches, or (as the translators words be) the care of those churches apperteined vnto him. Which what litle or no weighte they haue to proue archiepiscopall iurisdictiō: shall be seene when we come to the place / where the sense of this to haue care, ys discussed. In the meane time yt is to be obserued for better triall of this matter / which I haue before noted owte of Eusebius: that he succeded in the bishoprick off Alexandria vnto his predecessor / withowte attributing vnto hym any further charge. And when as Euseb. declareth / that he writing vnto the churches in Egipte / wrote vnto them by the bare name of the brethren vvhich vvere in Aegypte, withowte any title betokening anie bonde / or knot off mynisterie towardes them: and off the other parte writing