A18080:1087
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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The Papists say that there may be a bishop of all the whole ⟨p. DLXXXII⟩1church / because there may be of a province: I / that there can be 2nether off one / nor other. They would establish the Pope by the Archbishop: and I overthrow the Archbishop by the Pope. This is great joining with the Papists. If I would take the advantage off your own words / first that athere is the same reason of one over a diocese, and over a Province, and a gain that bforsomuch as one was over 12. therefore one may be over a whole province: I need not seek for further defence / as I have there declared. But against this M. Calvin, and M. Nowell be brought: which say there is not the same reason, off one over the whole church, and over a province. let it be so. For the one is a more prouder title / then the other: breaketh in further into the the prerogative of Christ / then the other. And if the church must needs be encumbered ether with Pope / or Archbishop: let us grant so much to the archbishop / that to avoid the Popes iron furnaces / we would be content to grind in his mill: and to a void the scourge off the one / pass by the whip off the other: yet hereof followeth not / but that it is true I have set down. For although they are not in all points a like / nor every reason which concludeth the one / concludeth the other: it hindereth not but there are certain reasons / which conclude both a like.
The Papistes saie that there maie be a bishop of all the whole ⟨p. DLXXXII⟩1church / because there may be of a prouince: I / that there can be 2nether off one / nor other. They would establishe the Pope by the Archbishop: and I ouerthrowe the Archbishop by the Pope. This is great ioining with the Papistes. If I woulde take the aduantage off your owne wordes / firste that