Now to the Ans. shifts. The first is out off Jerome to Rusticus / that every ecclesiastical order is subject unto her governors: whereof I would gladly know what he concludeth. If an Archbishop: there is no appearance. And the Ans. being so bountiful in translating / hath here cut off the sentence in the m•ddle: for what purpose / let other judge. my answer is ⟨p. DXCIX⟩therefore / that he must prove by Jerome that there was an archbishop / or that Jerome allowed off one: before the sentence off Jerome can profit the Archbishop. His second is / that the testimony off Jerome touching the equality off the bishops, doth not hurt the authority off the Archbishop: considering that it is not denied but that every bishop, and minister are equal as touching the ministry, but not in order, and policy. which distinction although I have confuted / and showed 1also immediately before / that it is clean against the mind off Jerome: yet here it is to be observed / that as his argument out off the place against the Luciferanes for the Archbishop / is borrowed of the Papists: so this shift is Hardinges / whereby he would avoid the force off the bishops answer. Harding saith that touching honour, dignity, and power off bishoply order and office, and off priesthood, as good, and as great a bishop in 2that respect is the one, as the other: and the bishops off thes little towns, have as great a merit in regard off any their virtues, and as great power concerning the order off priesthood as the bishop off Rome, &c. Yet touching power and authority off regiment, the Patriarchs off Constantinople, &c. be above the bishops off other dioceses. The bishop to this shift answereth with Erasmus / who saith that Jerome seemeth to match all bishops together, as if they were all equally the Apostles 3successors. And further allegeth an other place of Erasmus: where out off that place off Jerome he affirmeth plainly / that the bishop off Rome is above other bishops, only by riches. If by riches only: then not by government / as Harding and the Ans. affirm. And where Harding under this word merit / would hide him self as doth the Ans. the bishop answereth / by merit is meant without all question preeminence: which he D. allegeth / is used off Harding against the bishop: so it is Latomus (an other Papists) shift against Bucer.
Nowe to the Ans. shiftes. The first is owte off Ierome to Rusticus / that euery ecclesiasticall order is subiecte vnto her gouernours: wheroff I would gladly knowe what he concludeth. If an Archbishop: there is no apparance. And the Ans. being so bountifull in translating / hathe here cut off the sentence in the m•ddle: for what pourpose / let other iudge. my answer is ⟨p. DXCIX⟩therfore / that he must proue by Ierome that there was an archbishop / or that Ierome alowed off one: before the sentence off Ierome can profite the Archbishop. His seconde is / that the testimonie off Ierome touching the equalitie off the bishops, dooth not hurte the autoritie off the Archbishop: considering that it is not denied but that euery bishop, and minister are equall as towching the ministerie, but not in order, and policie. which distinction althowghe I haue confuted / and shewed 1also immediatly before / that it is cleane againste the minde off Ierome: yet here yt is to be obserued / that as his argument owte off the place againste the Luciferanes for the Archbishop / ys borowed of the Papistes: so this shifte is Hardinges / wherby he would auoide the force off the bishops answer. Harding saith that tovvching honor, dignitie, and povver off bishoply order and office, and off pristhood, as good, and as greate a bishop in 2that respecte is the one, as the other: and the bishops off thes litle tovvnes, haue as greate a merite in regarde off any their vertues, and as great povver concerning the order off priesthood as the bishop off Rome, &c. Yet tovvching povver and autoritie off regiment, the Patriarches off Constantinople, &c. be aboue the bishops off other dioceses. The bishop to this shifte answereth with Erasmus / who saith that Ierome seemeth to matche all bishops together, as if they vvere all equally the Apostells 3successors. And further alledgeth an other place of Erasmus: where owte off that place off Ierome he affirmeth plainlie / that the bishop off Rome is aboue other bishops, onely by riches. If by riches onely: then not by gouernement / as Harding and the Ans. affirme. And where Harding vnder this word merite / woulde hide him self as doth the Ans. the bishop answereth / by merite is mente vvithovvt all question preeminence: which he D. alledgeth / is vsed off Harding againste the bishop: so yt ys Latomus (an other Papistes) shifte againste Bucer.
- 1In 8. Tra. c. 1. di. 21.
- 2Apol. 2: part. ca. 3. divis. 5.Apol. 2: parte. ca. 3. diuis. 5.
- 3In his scholia upon that epistle.In his scholia vpon that epistle.
