A18080:1089
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Of the authorities you allege / nether affirm that the government of an Archbishop over a Province / is convenient: only they affirm that there is more likelihood in the one / then in the other / and that there were archbishops in the church when there were no Popes. if one should conclude that because a man may touch the moon with his hand / therefore he may touch the sun: and it be said for answer / that although it be possible to touch the moon / yet it followeth not so of the sun: who is there of so little judgement which would gather of this answer / that one may touch the moon with his hand? And as this proveth that one may overthrow one impossible thing by an other / without teaching ether off them possible: so that I have alleged 467. pag. pertaining to this matter (off one which against him that would allege Jacobs two wives, to prove he might have as many as he list, should answer that although he might have two: yet it followeth not that he may have as many as he list) proveth that one may overthrow one unlawful thing by an other / without teaching ether off them lawful: which the D. calling it a jest, answereth not. And yet it is manifest that thes he his reasons / both here and there: which may in deed worthily be jested at: albeit there is no word in the example I brought / that carieth the countenance off a jest.
Of the autorities yow alledge / nether affirme that the gouernement of an Arbishop ouer a Prouince / is conuenient: onely they affirme that there is more likelihoode in the one / then in the other / and that there were archbishops in the churche when ther were no Popes. yf one should conclude that becawse a man maie touche the moone with his hād / therfore he maie touche the son̄e: and yt be said for answer / that althowghe yt be possible to touche the moone / yet it foloweth not so of the son̄e: who is there of so litle iudgemēt vvhich vvould gather of this answer / that one maye touche the moone vvith his hand? And as this proueth that one may ouerthrowe one impossible thing by an other / withowt teaching ether off them possible: so that I haue alledged 467. pag. perteining to this matter (off one vvhich against him that vvould allegde Iacobs tvvo vviues, to proue he might haue as many as he liste, should ansvver that althovvgh he might haue tvvo: yet yt folovveth not that he may haue as many as he liste) proueth that one may ouerthrow one vnlawfull thing by an other / withowt teaching ether off them lawfull: which the D. calling yt a ieste, answereth not. And yet yt ys manifest that thes he his reasons / both here and there: which may in deede worthely be iested at: albeit there is no worde in the example I browght / that carieth the countenance off a ieste.