A18080:1117
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Where he addeth / when Jerome saith the bishops and elders were equal, that is to be understanded, that the elder was equal with the bishop in that they were both preferred unto the deacon: I marvel the Ans. is not ashamed to allege that saying / without all colour off truth. For I have alleged divers other places out off Jerome where he speaking absolutely / without respect off any deacon / affirmeth the bishop and elder all one in the beginning. And what a ridiculous disputation doth he make Jerome to hold? For it is all one / as if a man after long discourse to prove London and York equal: in the end should conclude / that York were equal with London / because they be both greater then Nuington. Now let the reader judge / what unworthy outcries the D. useth / both before and after / 1off guileful dealing, and shifting the place of Jerome, thereby to drown the voice of the truth: and whether I have interpreted it according to his natural meaning / and as other godly / and learned have done: and whether he contrarily / to maintain his first saying / hath used shifts partly popish / overthrowing the answers off those which have travailed against popery / aswell as mine: partly fond / and childish / which he would bear out with 2Erasmus authority / without any weight off reason. Likewise how he after dallieth in his long translation / and repetition of Jerome / to no purpose. That a doctor differeth from a pastor / hath been showed, that he is inferior unto him appeareth / not only ⟨p. DCIII⟩because the Apostle placeth him after / where he doth most exactly set down the order off preaching ministers: but also that 3the gifts required for that office / are (as hath been showed) less. whereunto may be added the practise off the elder churches / which esteemed the doctor always under him whom they called bishop or Pastor. That the elder which governeth only is inferior to the Doctor: appeareth both in that his gifts be fewer / and that athe Apostle giveth more honour to him / then to the elder. That Deacons are under those elders: for that their charge is to