A18080:1142
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Justines writings compared as I compared them / with ⟨p. DCXXII⟩the holy scripture / are as I said a ditch: I added the reason / that there was in them not a little mud off errors / which the D. could not answer: otherwise I acknowledge him both godly / and learned. Master Beza sought not the word president in Justine, but showeth how Timothy did the office at Ephesus / which Justines president did: which was meet / considering he had a higher ministry then any there. So that although Timothy above the degree off a bishop / kept that presidentship continually during his abode: yet there was no reason that one Pastor off the same degree with other / should take that upon him. If he were the true Ignatius / he should in deed be before Justin: but to let pass other exceptions / with M. Calvins sharp censure off him: it is absurd to ascribe to Ignatius S Johns scholar / that vain boast / off being able to aexpound the orders off Angels / their varieties / the distinctions and differences between virtues / powers / Thrones / &c. bThat priest is no fit name for a minister off the gospel, is touched after: that the names proper to our S. Christ / can be communicated with man / is absurd / and before confuted: where also the name off Prince / a peace off Prince off Priests, is showed unfit 3fer the ministry. That there may be one Archbishop over bishops / as there is one bishop over pastors / hath no part true / as hath been showed: only let it be noted / that the reason here for the Archbishop / is cHardinges for the Pope.
Iustines writinges compared as I compared them / with ⟨p. DCXXII⟩the holie scripture / are as I said a ditche: I added the reason / that ther was in them not a litle mudd off errors / which the D. could not answer: otherwise I acknowledge him both godlie / and learned. Maister Beza sought not the word president in Iustine, but sheweth how Timothe did the office at Ephesus / which Iustines president did: which was meete / considering he had a higher ministerie then any there. So that althowgh Timothe aboue the degree off a bishop / kept that presidentship continually during his abode: yet there was no reason that one Pastor off the same degree with other / should take that vpon him. Yf he were the true Ignatius / he should in dede be before Iustin: but to let passe other exceptions / withe M. Caluins sharpe censure off him: yt is absurde to ascribe to Ignatius S Iohns scholer / that vaine boaste / off being able to