A18080:1148
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
If I would have sought to have discredited Chrysostom: I might have answered that it was no marvel / though he exercised such dominion / considering that both Socrates / and Camerarius after him / which commend diverse virtues off his 1affirm him to have been a proud man. But considering that him self opposeth the Emperors large dominion / to a bishops charge in one city: I chose that sense which I set down. Neither are there any words either in Theodoret / or the Centuries / so strong to carry the metropolitaneship over all these places / to Chrysostom: as Nazianzenes words before handled / are to carry 2the metropolitaneship off almost all the churches in the world ⟨p. DCXXVI⟩/ unto Cyprian. For these words he had the same care, can not be understood as the D. would / that he did the same things in all places which he did at Constantinople. For how could he teach / and rebuke sin in all that circuit / as there? deprive and excommunicate in proper person / as there? so that will he nil he / the words must have a restraint in respect off those before. as for the greek word he translateth he governed, which signifieth he adorned: unless he have some singular licence / i• is for a translation 3especially / too riotous. although if that were there: it draweth no metropolitan authority / as hath been showed in Cyprian's example. I grant Sozomenes are more pressing / which speaketh off his deposing off the bishops in Asia: and if to maintain my former answer I would say / he deposed them not by his authority / but by his counsel / as Diophantus said off the 4city of Athens ruled by him, because Themistocles his father which ruled it, was guided by his mother, and his mother by him: and thereto allege that he is called the Doctor off the world by the same bTheodoret / when notwithstanding he could not be an authorised doctor off such a compass: it would peradventure be more then he can well answer. But if he will as he doth / make that his pattern to frame his Archbishop by: he maketh us a fairer but to shoot at / then before: the archbis. being made thereby in authority off breaking canons off the best Councils / by putting in and putting out off his absolute power / not inferior unto the pope of Rome / and in compass off dominion above him / and a fatter Pope then he.