The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

^fWhere I showed out off the ancient ^gCouncils / that the bishops should have a little house near the church, their household stuff after the common sort, table, and diet poor, not give them selves to feasting, get their estimation by good conversation: he answereth one of the councils decreed that the clerks should get their living by some occupation, not meet for our days But it decreed not that the bishops / or ministers of the word should do so / but only Clerks: in which number were readers / doorkeepers / acolytes / exorcists and other such / which having light charges in the church / were fashioned in the Bishops house to the ministry. These having a great part off their living (as shall appear) off that appointed for the bishops house: were commanded to get the rest with their hands at such times / as were nether hinderance unto their office / nor their further advancement in learning: as it is to be seen in those Canons. Now if they afters dinners and suppers or others times wherein they nether executed office nor were so fit to study / occupied them selves in some art / whereby they gained part off their living / and those Clerkships were needful: I see no great inconvenience in that order. At the lest in the time and country in which the D. would lurk: there is no difference. If there had been any material: he ought to have showed it. for what cause can he assign why our bishops should live more lordly then those? both living in the peace and wealth off the church / and under Christian magistrates. ⟨p. DCXLIX⟩They sowing also more liberally then ours / why should they reap more scantly? especially seeing divers off their Countries were better able to furnish them off that riot then ours is.

^fWhere I shewed owt off the auncient ^gCouncells / that the bishops should haue a litle house nere the churche, their houshould stuf after the common sorte, table, and diet poore, not gyue them selues to feasting, get their estimacion by good conuersation: he answereth one of the councels decreed that the clerckes should get their lyuing by some occupatiō, not meete for our daies But it decreed not that the bishops / or ministers of the word should doo so / but onely Clerkes: in which number were readers / dorekepers / acolouthes / exercistes and other such / which hauing light charges in the churche / were fashioned in the Bishops howse to the ministrie. These hauing a great part off their lyuing (as shall appeare) off that appointed for the bishops howse: were commaunded to get the reste with their handes at such times / as were nether hinderance vnto their office / nor their further aduauncement in learning: as it is to be seene in those Canons. Now if they afters dinners and suppers or others tymes wherin they nether executed office nor were so fyt to studie / occupied them selues in some arte / werby they gained parte off their liuing / and those Clerckships were needfull: I see no great inconuenience in that order. At the lest in the time and countrie in which the D. would lurke: ther is no difference. If there had bene any material: he owght to haue shewed yt. for what cause can he assigne why our bishops should liue more lordly then those? both liuing in the peace and welth off the church / and vnder Christian magistrates.