A18080:1195
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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That the house off salutations / was within the bounds off the 1church appeareth not in Theodoret. His reason / because the houses pertaining to the bishopric were near the church, is weak. For although all houses pertaining to the bishopric were near: yet there might be some near / not pertaining thereto. Howbeit if it were belonging to the church / in that word there / is no such note off excellency / whereby it deserveth to be the porters lodge of our bishops palaces. To that off the bishops bestowing the church goods upon loitering serving men, which should be bestowed upon the universities, and poor both ministers, and other: he saith / and only saith that their number off serving men tendeth to the defence off the realm, honour off the prince, and their own good education. off the princes honour: it is answered. strength to the realm, they can not be: seeing the men should be / although they were not nourished by the bishop: especially seeing the bishops house / is an unfit school to train up to warfare. And if the former necessities were ⟨p. DCLVIII⟩helped / and it thought meet that the church goods should serve the realm that way: all see that it would rise to more profit / if some were nourished off them / in profession off a Soldier / then that in waiting upon the white Rochet they should rather become white livered / then fashioned / for that service. Beside that the bishops countenance being so profitable as it is made / and placed a great part in this suite off men: it is manifest that his pomp holding divers at home / which otherwise might be in the field weakeneth rather then strengtheneth the realm. For the education they get under them: the corrupt religion of some / the want of Catechising others ignorant in the principles of religion / the lewdness of divers / the idleness off the most part / which is in the eyes of all give to plentiful a confutation off that part. wherein let the reader observe / how unmeet they be to govern dioceses / and Provinces / which have their proper houses so evil ordered: especially seeing athe Apostle vvill not trust him with one parish / which ruleth not his own house well. And the truth is / that the church ministry is of that travail and care / that it vvill not suffer the bishops gifts (be they never so great) to be spent in the houshoulding and masterlike charge off such a number: