The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Leaving his untrue accusations / I answer / that where he saith that the case off Luther and Zuinglius off Circumcision and preaching unto gentiles / which I alleged are not like / for that they be substantial points of religion / and these be not: it is his old cuckoo's song. For we offer to prove this also off the substance off Religion. And I brought the examples only to show / that to be untrue which he goeth about to persuade / that all those which contend where the gospel is preached / are to be holden for disturbers. The other difference which he placeth in that Luther and Zuinglius did that which they did in striving about the Sacrament / by consent off their several magistrates: although he doth not make that appear: yet I ask him what Zuinglius / &c. should have done / if the Magistrate would not have suffered him to answer: should he have suffered the truth to be destitute off his defence? Where he citeth out off Zuinglius that the gospel is a sword to divide the faithful, and therefore that this doctrine which hath made a division in the church can not be good: I answer that although he might well say it to the Anabaptists / and that it so cometh to pass for the most part: yet that can be no general rule / considering that the preaching that circumcision was not necessary / although it divided those off the church which believed it from those that did not believe it:: yet those which did not believe it / did not there fore cease to be off the church / and off the number off the faithful.

LEauing his vntrue accusations / I answere / that where he saithe that the case off Luther and Zuinglius off Circumcision and preaching vnto gentilles / which I alledged are not like / for that they be substantiall pointes of religion / and these be not: it is his oulde cuckoes songe. For we offer to proue this also off the substance off Religion. And I browght the examples onely to shew / that to be vntrue which he goethe abowt to perswade / that all those which contende where the gospell is preached / are to be holden for disturbers. Thother difference which he placeth in that Luther and Zuinglius did that which they did in strininge abowt the Sacramēt / by consent off theire seuerall magistrates: althoughe he dothe not make that appeare: yet I aske him what Zuinglius / &c. should haue done / iff the Magistrate would not haue suffred him to answere: should he haue suffred the truthe to be destitute off his defence? Where he citeth owt off Zuinglius that the gospell is a sworde to deuide the faithfull, and therfore that this doctrine which hathe made a diuision in the church can not be good: I answere that althoughe he might well saye it to the Anabaptistes / and that yt so comethe to passe for the most parte: yet that can be no generall rule / consideringe that the preaching that circumcision was not necessarie / although it deuided those off the church which beleued it from those that did not beleue it:: yet those which did not beleue it / did not ther fore cease to be off the churche / and off the numbre off the faithfull.