The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

That the words off the admonition have not that sense which is here ascribed unto it / I have showed in the proper place: neither will I touch it here / although the A. set it twenty times before me. If he have any thing to say against that which I have said / there it shall be considered. Although here the D. was taken even in the very act of false coining: yet he shameth not to deny it / and with that boldness and forehead / that he is ready also to accuse him that taketh him with the manner. He biddeth me peruse more diligently the words off M. Bullingar. I have perused them / and set them down / first in latin and then in English: and if I have not turned them truly / show wherein I have faulted: and if they be truly turned / then I demand again / where these words be found in any of those leaves of Bullinger which you quote / That they could not teach truly because they had great livings? You say they be word for word there, show but the same sense or meaning / that is to say that this off M. Bullingers that the Anabaptists said they could not teach the truth which had any living, is all one with that which you have set down / that they can not teach the truth which have great livings. And if you can not show it: your falsification remaineth increased with the open facing of an untruth. In deed if you can put out all men eyes / and take away from us our senses / and all light off grammar / and off the knowledge off signification and propriety off words: it will not be impossible for you with such confident speeches as you use / to make us believe that all is turned upside down / and that the earth hangeth over our heads / and the heavens are underneath our feet. but you deceive your self / if you think that you can bear down the truth so / or that you can hide falsehood by adding another unto it / whereby it is made bigger and more easy to be seen then before.

That the wordes off the admonition haue not that sense which is here ascribed vnto yt / I haue shewed in the proper place: neither will I touche it here / althoughe the A. set it twentie tymes before me. Yff he haue any thing to saye against that whiche I haue said / there it shall be considered. Althoughe here the D. was taken euē in the verie acte of false coyninge: yet he shameth not to denie yt / and withe that bloudnes and foreheade / that he is readie also to accuse him that taketh him withe the manner. He biddeth me peruse more diligentlie the wordes off M. Bullingar. I haue perused them / and set them downe / first in latin and then in Englishe: and iff I haue not turned them truelye / shew wherin I haue faulted: and iff they be truelie turned / then I demaunde againe / where these wordes be founde in any of those leaues of Bullinger whiche yow quote / That they could not teache truelie because they had great liuinges? Yow saye they be word for word there, shew but the same sense or meaninge / that is to saye that this off M. Bullingers that the Anabaptistes said they could not teache the truthe vvhiche had any liuinge, is all one withe that whiche yow haue set downe / that they can not teache the truthe which haue great liuinges. And iff yow can not shew it: your falsification remaineth increased withe the open facing of an vntruthe. In deede if yow can put owt all men eyes / ād take away frō vs our senses / and all light off grammer / and off the knowledge off signification and proprietie off wordes: it will not be impossible for yow withe suche confident speaches as yow vse / to make vs beleue that all is turned vpside downe / and that the earth hangeth ouer our heades / and the heauens are vnderneath our feete. but yow deceiue your selffe / if yow thincke that yovve can beare downe the truthe so / or that yow can hide falshoode by adding another vnto yt / wherby it is made bigger and more easie to be sene then before.