The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

To the 44. sect. pag. 41. I grant the corruptions off the church of England to be such / that man in abstaining from the pollutions thereof / ought not so sever him self from those open assemblies / wherein the eternal word off the Lord God is preached and the Sacraments administered / although not in that purity which they ought to be. But I say again / that the name off conventicles is to light and contemptuous for those meetings. For here in is to be considered for what cause they departed. Which was not for the mis liking off any thing which Christ ordained / but through the mislike off that which Antichrist had brought in: not as the Anabaptists did / and the D. surmiseth they did / for that they judged them selves pure and others unpure / but that they feared that their presence where such corruptions were / should be allowance or confirmation off them: not so much forth hatred off the estate / off the church off England / as forth love that they had to a better: nor so much for the hatred off the Ministers which were unjustly set over them / as for the love off those which were unlawfully by the Bishops taken from them. Thedorete declareth how the Catholics which maintained the faith of the Nicene council / ¹through affection to their teachers / divided and severed them selves into several companies: will the. A. say that all their meetings ⟨p. XXXIX⟩were conventicles? if he do / he speaketh far otherwise off them then Theodorete: and yet that division continued 86. years.

To the 44. sect. pag. 41. I graunt the corruptions off the churche of England to be suche / that man in absteininge from the pollutions theroff / owght not so seuer him selfe from those open assemblies / wherein the eternall worde off the Lorde God is preached and the Sacramentes administred / althoughe not in that puritie which they owght to be. But I saye againe / that the name off conuenticles is to light and contēptuous for those meetīges. For here in is to be cōsidered for what cause they departed. Which was not for the mis likinge off any thinge which Christ ordeyned / but throughe the mislike off that which Antechrist had browght in: not as the Anabaptistes did / and the D. surmiseth they did / for that they iudged them selues pure and others vnpure / but that they feared that their presence where suche corruptions were / should be allowance or confirmation off them: not so muche forthe hatred off the estate / off the churche off England / as forthe loue that they had to a better: nor so muche for the hatred off the Ministers whiche were vniustly set ouer them / as for the loue off those which were vnlawfullie by the Bishoppes taken from them. Thedorete declareth how the Catholikes which mainteined the faithe of the Nicenc councell /