A18080:222
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Cap. 3. Division 1. pag. 100.
Cap. 3. Diuision 1. pag. 100.
IN the first whole page / there is nothing to be answered: it being ⟨p. LXXXII⟩showed / that it is not our question (which the A. doth so shamefully affirm) whether the scripture have expressed all external ceremonies / &c. In the next page / unto me showing that the place off August. to Casulanus is against him / for that where he would prove / that certain things are in the churches power / the words which he allegeth say / that the decrees of the forefathers / and customs off the people off God are to be observed / tying the church to the decrees / and customs off those which went before: he answereth / that August. giveth a rule unto private men and not unto the church. Wherein he condemneth him self / off having alleged that sentence clean beside the cause. For it is manifest / by the words immediately going before / that he alleged it / to prove the authority off the church in things indifferent: neither can it in any other respect / have any bond with that / which he pretendeth to prove. And now that it is showed / how unfitly the place is alleged: he shifteth his footing / and in stead off a rule touching the church / he maketh it a rule for private men: and in stead off showing the liberty off the church / he showeth the bondage / that a private man is tied by.
IN the first whole page / there is nothing to be answered: yt being ⟨p. LXXXII⟩shewed / that yt is not our question (which the A. dooth so shamefully affirme) whether the scripture haue expressed all externall ceremonies / &c. In the next page / vnto me shewing that the place off August. to Casulanus is against hym / for that where he would proue / that certein thinges are in the churches power / the wordes which he alledgeth say / that the decrees of the forefathers / and coustomes off the people off God are to be obserued / tying the church to the decrees / and coustomes off those which went before: he answereth / that August. giueth a rule vnto priuate men and not vnto the church. Wherein he condemneth him self / off hauing alledged that sentence cleane beside the cause. For it is manifest / by the wordes immediatly goinge before / that he alledged it / to proue the autoritie off the church in thinges indifferent: neither can yt in any other respect / haue any bonde with that / which he pretendeth to proue. And nowe that yt is shewed / howe vnfitly the place is alledged: he shifteth his footing / and in steade off a rule towchinge the church / he maketh yt a rule for priuate men: and in steade off shewing the libertie off the church / he sheweth the bondage / that a priuate man is tyed by.