The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Where he allegeth Zuinglius / using a sentence off Augustine not much unlike / to confirm children's baptism: it is to be noted / that Zuinglins used not that sentence / but in the confirmation off a thing / which hath certain testimony out off the word off God / as hath children's baptism / where it could not be dangerous. and then it is to be observed / that thereby is overthrown his whole answer. For Zuinglius taking that sentence off things / which have a necessary observation in the church off God / and can not be changed: putteth to flight his whole answer / with the defence thereof / which supposeth Augustine to have given this rule / off things indifferent. And therefore either the A. is abused / in understanding thes places off things indifferent: or else Zuinglius / in using this for the necessity off children's baptism / gave his adversaries great advantage / whilst they might have answered with the D. that that authority off the Apostles is such / as the church upon consideration may alter. And where he allegeth M. Calvin / as one which had used that rule off Augustine: I answer / that it is one thing / to allow the sentence off a writer: and another thing / to take some advantage off it when his adversary presseth him with his authority. A man useth some time that defence / provoked by the manner off assault off his enemy / which he would not do / if he might choose his own fight: and it might serve M. Calvin in part / for arm our against the bare authority off Augustine urged off the Papists / which is not of proof / against the shot off the word off God.

Where he alledgeth Zuinglius / vsing a sentence off Augustine not muche vnlike / to confirme childrens baptisme: yt is to be noted / that Zuinglins vsed not that sentence / but in the confirmacion off a thing / which hath certeine testimonie owt off the word off God / as hath childrens baptisme / whereit could not be dangerous. and then yt is to be obserued / that thereby is ouerthrowne his whole answer. For Zuinglius taking that sentence off thinges / which haue a necessarye obseruation in the church off God / ād can not be chaunged: putteth to flight his whole answer / with the defense theroff / which supposeth Augustine to haue gyuen this rule / off thinges indifferent. And therefore either the A. is abused / in vnderstanding thes places off thinges indifferent: or els Zuinglius / in vsing this for the necessitie off childrens baptisme / gaue his aduersaries great aduantage / whilest they might haue answered with the D. that that authoritie off the Apostels is suche / as the church vpon consideration may alter. And where he alledgeth M. Caluin / as one which had vsed that rule off Augustine: I answer / that yt is one thing / to alowe the sentence off a writer: and another thing / to take some aduantage off it when his aduersarie presseth hym with his authoritie. A man vseth some time that defense / prouoked by the manner off assault off his ennemie / which he would not doo / iff he might choose his owne fight: and it might serue M. Caluin in part / for arm our against the bare autoritie off Augustine vrged off the Papistes / which is not of proofe / against the shot off the word off God.