A18080:223
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
IN the first whole page / there is nothing to be answered: it being ⟨p. LXXXII⟩showed / that it is not our question (which the A. doth so shamefully affirm) whether the scripture have expressed all external ceremonies / &c. In the next page / unto me showing that the place off August. to Casulanus is against him / for that where he would prove / that certain things are in the churches power / the words which he allegeth say / that the decrees of the forefathers / and customs off the people off God are to be observed / tying the church to the decrees / and customs off those which went before: he answereth / that August. giveth a rule unto private men and not unto the church. Wherein he condemneth him self / off having alleged that sentence clean beside the cause. For it is manifest / by the words immediately going before / that he alleged it / to prove the authority off the church in things indifferent: neither can it in any other respect / have any bond with that / which he pretendeth to prove. And now that it is showed / how unfitly the place is alleged: he shifteth his footing / and in stead off a rule touching the church / he maketh it a rule for private men: and in stead off showing the liberty off the church / he showeth the bondage / that a private man is tied by.
IN the first whole page / there is nothing to be answered: yt being ⟨p. LXXXII⟩shewed / that yt is not our question (which the A. dooth so shamefully affirme) whether the scripture haue expressed all externall ceremonies / &c. In the next page / vnto me shewing that the place off August. to Casulanus is against hym / for that where he would proue / that certein thinges are in the churches power / the wordes which he alledgeth say / that the decrees of the forefathers / and coustomes off the people off God are to be obserued / tying the church to the decrees / and coustomes off those which went before: he answereth / that August. giueth a rule vnto priuate men and not vnto the church. Wherein he condemneth him self / off hauing alledged that sentence cleane beside the cause. For it is manifest / by the wordes immediatly goinge before / that he alledged it / to proue the autoritie off the church in thinges indifferent: neither can yt in any other respect / haue any bonde with that / which he pretendeth to proue. And nowe that yt is shewed / howe vnfitly the place is alledged: he shifteth his footing / and in steade off a rule towchinge the church / he maketh yt a rule for priuate men: and in steade off shewing the libertie off the church / he sheweth the bondage / that a priuate man is tyed by.