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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where he sayeth / that the Papists have no wicked thing, which ether hath been generally observed, or whereof he is not able to show the first author: I answer / that it is well the church standeth not in need / off this defence off yours. For if the Lenten fast, (which in Augustine's ⟨p. LXXXIX⟩time had been by long custom received) if holy water / 1holy oil / the superstition off praying towards the East (which are off those traditions / that in the place by him alleged out off 2Basil / are attributed unto the Apostles) if those I say / and such like / be against the word off God: let him tell how he will clear the Apostles / of being authors off these corruptions / which are fathered of them by men off such credit / onlesse he fly to this rock (which by the doctrine off traditions he goeth about to undermine) that is to say: that the Apostles have left in writing / whatsoever they would have the churches observe. For what authority soever he bring to show / who were the first inventors of these things / it being humane / is countervailed by them / which have carried them unto the times off the Apostles.
Where he saieth / that the Papistes haue no wicked thing, which ether hath bene generally obserued, or whereoff he is not able to shewe the first autor: I answer / that it is well the church standethe not in neede / off this defense off yowres. For if the Lenten fast, (which in Augustines ⟨p. LXXXIX⟩time had bene by longe coustome receiued) if holy water / 1holy oyle / the superstition off praying towardes the East (which are off those traditions / that in the place by him alledged owt off 2Basile / are attributed vnto the Apostles) yff those I saie / and suche like / be against the word off God: let hym tell howe he will cleare the Apostels / of being autoures off these corruptions / which are fathered of them by men off suche credit / onlesse he flye to this rocke (which by the doctrine off traditions he goeth abowte to vndermine) that is to saie: that the Apostles haue left in writing / whatsoeuer they would haue the churches obserue. For what autoritie soeuer he bring to shewe / who were the first inuentors of these thinges / yt being humane / is counteruailed by them / which haue caried them vnto the times off the Apostels.