A18080:237
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Where upon on that I said / that all the commandments off God, and off the Apostles, are needful for our salvation, he maketh such a terrible outcry / as if all the church had been set on fire: I doubt whether (for the vanity of the accusation) I should vouchsafe it of answer / which for the strong / and bitter words / might seem to require a large defence. Howbeit let him understand that when I speak of all the commandments of God / and off the Apostles: nether by the deduction off that which I handled / nor by any Judgement / not altogether perverted / could I be thought to mean any other commandments / then those which pertain unto us. And if I had met with the vainest trifler / and hawker after syllables / which can possibly be: yet the sentence I set down / is sufficiently fenced against all his greediness / of snapping at it. For the Ceremonial law / and personal laws given in times paste (being now no commandments off God / and the Apostles) can not be comprehended under my words / off the commandments off God, &c. And if a man leaving the deduction off the cause / which I had in hand / will stay in the bare words / which I used: then even both ceremonial / and those which were given to particular persons / albeit they be not to be done / yet are they for our better instruction in the will off God / needful for our salvation.
Where vppon on that I saide / that all the commandementes off God, and off the Apostels, are nedefull for our saluation, he maketh such a terrible owtcrie / as if all the church had bene set on fire: I dowbt whether (for the vanitie of the accusation) I should vouchesafe yt of answer / which for the strong / and bitter wordes / might seme to require a large defense. Howbeit let him vnderstand that when I speake of all the commandementes of God / and off the Apostels: nether by the deduction off that which I handled / nor by any Iudgement / not altogether peruerted / could I be thowght to meane any other commaundementes / then those which perteine vnto vs. And iff I had met with the vainest trifler / and hawker after syllables / which can possibly be: yet the sentence I set downe / is sufficiently fenced against all his greedines / of snapping at yt. For the Ceremoniall lawe / and personall lawes giuen in times paste (being nowe no commaundementes off God / and the Apostels) can not be comprehended vnder my wordes / off the commandementes off God, &c. And iff a man leuing the deduction off the cawse / which I had in hand / will staie in the bare wordes / which I vsed: then euen bothe cermoniall / and those which were giuen to particular persones / albeit they be not to be doone / yet are they for our better instruction in the will off God / needefull for our saluacion.