The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

But seeing this sense please the you not / let us here what you bring. If (saith he) you will refer it to the time of the gospel, then this is the true meaning: if to the time off the law, then that. If all be gospel you speak / we must needs believe you▪ if your words ⟨p. CXIII⟩have no further authority / then you give them by Good reason / and conference off the scriptures: then casting a way the sense / which hath warrant off the manifest words off the Scripture: you should have confirmed by substantial arguments / that which you have set down. The proud Sorbonists / and Magistri nostri off Paris / did never usurp a more absolute authority / and more out off rule then this is: And it is to bring in an intolerable Tyranny into the church off God / and lordship not to be abidden. Which when I understand off all interpretations off men / be they never so learned / and sharp: much more off such wooden interpretations which the answerer thrust the upon us. But tell me Good Sir / what difference is there between your first interpretation / and your second? For if under the gospel, it be lawful (as your exposition suppose the) for parents to kill there children which shall prophesy falsely: what leave you to the Jews / wherein they differ from the Christians? and tell me also / how you differ herein / from that which I set down: that Idolatry ought to be punished with death under the gospel?

But seeinge this sense please the yow not / let vs heere what yow bringe. Yf (saithe he) yow will referre yt to the tyme of the gospell, then this is the true meaninge: if to the time off the lawe, then that. Yf al be gospell yow speake / vve muste needes beleue yow▪ yf your wordes ⟨p. CXIII⟩haue no further aucthoritie / then yow gyue them by Good reason / and conference off the scriptures: then castinge a waye the sense / whiche hathe warrante off the manyfeste wordes off the Scripture: yow shoulde haue confirmed by substanciall argumentes / that whiche yow haue set downe. The prowde Sorbonistes / and Magistri nostri off Paris / did neuer vsurpe a more absolute auctoritie / and more owte off rule then this is: And yt is to bringe in an intollerable Tyrannie into the churche off God / and lordeshippe not to be abydden. Whiche when I vnderstande off all interpretations off men / be they neuer so lerned / and sharpe: muche more off suche wooden interpretations whiche the answerer thruste the vppon vs. But tell me Good Sir / what difference is there betwene yowr firste interpretation / and yowr seconde? For iff vnder the gospell, it be lawfull (as yowr exposition suppose the) for parentes to kyll ther children whiche shall prophecey falsely: what leue yow to the Iewes / wherin they differ from the Christians? and tell me also / howe yow differ herin / from that whiche I set downe: that Idolatrie ovvghte to be punished vvithe deathe vnder the gospell?