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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Now to return back / to the Divis. pag. 123. I leave to the judgement off the reader / how importunate an adversary the D. is: which requireth answer of that / which hath been so often answered. In the next Divis. p. 124. seeking to maintain his logic in dividing / and defining / he maketh him self pitiful / to all that ever saluted that school. For what an absurd saying is it / that because the definition off a general thing, agreeth unto his particular: therefore it is the definition off the particular? As though every thing / which were verified of an other / were by and by the definition off it: or as though the same could be the definition / of the general and of the special. And what a miserable defence of his division is it / which to prove that his three last parts / are not contained under the first: allegeth / that they are not all one with the first? But as I promised / I will leave this to the learned reader: that I leese not the time / in confuting off these trifles. The rest off his section is answered before.
Nowe to returne backe / to the Diuis. pag. 123. I leaue to the iudgement off the reader / howe importunate an aduersarie the D. is: vvhich requireth answer of that / which hath been so often answered. In the next Diuis. p. 124. seeking to mainteine his logicke in diuiding / and defining / he maketh him selffe pytifull / to all that euer saluted that scoole. For what an absurd saying is yt / that becawse the definition off a generall thing, agreeth vnto his particular: therfore yt is the definition off the particular? As though euery thing / vvhich vvere verefied of an other / were by and by the definition off it: or as thoughe the same coulde be the definition / of the generall and of the speciall. And what a miserable defence of his diuisiō is yt / which to proue that his three last partes / are not conteined vnder the first: alledgeth / that they are not all one with the first? But as I promised / I will leaue this to the learned reader: that I leese not the tyme / in confuting off these tryfles. The rest off his section is answered before.
In the next / beside the sentence which I deny / and he untruly fathereth off Zuing. that in Ceremonies, things are to be used in the church, which are not contained in the scriptures There is nothing / which maketh any thing unto the question. For where he sayeth / that I mislike that of Zuing. (If they be not repugnant to the word) I have told him before / that I never found fault with that / but because he condemned the Ad. which will have them caste in the mould off the word off God. And as for Master Bezaes sentence repeated here / off discipline left in the order off the church, and that some things done off the Apostles, are not always to be followed off us: whereby it seemed the D. would make the reader believe / that he meaneth this / off the points of discipline now debated: if I should herein charge him with untrue dealing / upon Master Bezaes book off Epist. Which declareth in so many