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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And as for master Luther / I answer with Jerome: which (albeit he did not so well practise it him self) yet in one place of the smaller Prophets (that cometh not now to my mind) saith / that to seek for an allegory, where a Plain and literal sense may be had: is to seek a knot in a rush. Seeing therefore the scripture meaneth here as it speaketh / and calleth a spade a spade / and a fig a fig: to expound killing confuting, and corporal weapons spiritual / and heretics heresies: is by Master Luther's Good leave / out off season.
And as for maister Luther / I answere withe Ierome: whiche (albeit he did not so well practise it him selfe) yet in one place of the smaller Prophetes (that cometh not now to my minde) saithe / that to seeke for an alligorie, vvhere a Plaine and litterall sense maie be had: is to seeke a knotte in a rishe. Seinge therfore the scripture meaneth here as it speaketh / and calleth a spade a spade / and a figg a figg: to expounde killinge confuttinge, and corporall vveapons spirituall / and heretikes heresies: is by Maister Luthers Good leaue / owte off season.
Furthermore if Master Luther should by confuting off their heresies / shut out the corporal punishment off death: ⟨p. CXV⟩he hath the Answ. interpretation (which he calleth thē true meaning off the place) for enemy. So that either master Luther's meaning was / that they should not only put them to death / but also confute their heresies: or else it serveth as well to overthrow that / which the answerer hath set down / as that which we maintain.
Futhermore if Maister Luther shoulde by confutinge off their herysies / shut owte the corporall punishmente off deathe: ⟨p. CXV⟩he hath the Answ. interpretation (whiche he calleth thē true meaninge off the place) for enemie. So that either maister Luthers meaninge was / that they shoulde not onely put them to deathe / but also confute their heresies: or els yt serueth as well to ouerthrowe that / whiche the answerer hathe set downe / as that which we mainteine.