A18080:273
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
so by this so shameless defence / it is laid more open.
so by this so shameles defence / yt is laide more open.
And where he saith / that this sentence off Cyril, may Minister occasion of quarrelling unto such as be disposed: I answer / that there can be no peace with this sentence / but by betraying the truth: and that the untruth of it is so apparent / that all the patched shifts which he hath / shall never be able to hide it. But howsoever it be (saith he) this is evident. What: forsooth that the quantity off sin is not to be esteemed, according to the external punishment. Howe is it evident / by what word / or by what sentence? if the authority off the sentence fall: if it consisting upon two parts / have never a one true: if in that very point for which it is alleged / it is most false: where is your Howe so ever? you are a dangerous adversary to deal with all / for whether the proofs you bring be true / or whether they be false: they fall still upon your side.
And where he saithe / that this sentence off Cyrill, maie Minister occasion of quarrelinge vnto suche as be disposed: I answere / that there can be no peace withe this sentence / but by betrayinge the trewthe: and that the vntrewthe of yt is so apparante / that all the patched shiftes whiche he hathe / shall neuer be hable to hide yt. But howsoeuer yt be (saithe he) this is euidente. What: forsooth that the quantitie off synne is not to be estemed, accordinge to the externall punishmente. Howe is it euidente / by what worde / or by what sentence? yff the autoritie off the sentence fall: iff it consistinge vppon two partes / haue neuer a one trewe: yff in that verie poincte for whiche yt is alledged / yt is moste false: where ys your Howe so euer? yow are a daūgerous aduersarie to deale withe al / for whether the profes yowt bringe be trewe / or whether they be false: they fall still vpon your syde.