A18080:313
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Again that the Apostles give in charge unto the church / that they should chose such as had testimony off there good behaviour: pertaineth to the examination / for the church in seeking testimony off there good conversation / tried them what they where. And unless this be trial: touching the conversation off him which is to be chosen minister / in the church of England there is no trial at all: considering that the trial which is had / is by the testimony off certain. So I conclude that this place off the acts / making for the examination off the Deacon: is much more strong / for the examination of the minister. To the next section I answer not.
Againe that the Apostels giue in charge vnto the churche / that they shoulde chose suche as had testimonie off there good behauiour: perteineth to the examination / for the churche in seking testimonie off there good conuersation / tried them what they where. And vnles this be tryall: towching the conuersation off him which is to be chosen minister / in the churche of England there is no tryall at all: considering that the triall which is had / is by the testimonie off certeine. So I conclude that this place off the actes / makinge for the examination off the Deacon: is muche more stronge / for the examination of the minister. To the nexte section I answere not.
Divis. 4. What is in the beginning off the book / because you 1set it not down / and I have not the book to see: I will leave to every one to consider. Howbeit the words which I allege out off it / where (speaking to the Archdeacons) he saith / Take heed ⟨p. CXXIX⟩2that the persons whom you present unto us be apt and mere &c. declare that the bishop passeth his election / upon the only examination off his Archdeacon. But it maketh no great matter how many examine / seeing the election / and ordination hangeth only upon the Bishops pleasure. And he partly seeing / that all the matter standeth in the courtesy off the Bishop: and partly (as it seemeth) willing / that that gulf should swallow up / all other mens interests in this election: setteth him self to prove it.