The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

To come therefore to the examination off this dealing: first in that he saith / that it had been a dangerous error, if S. Peter had ⟨p. CXXXVI⟩done any thing off his own authority, without the assistance of other the Apostles: in that he saith / that Timothy had not, not only not the election off the ministers, but not the ordination in his power, but that which he did / he did in the name off the rest off the eldership: and in that he saith / it belongeth chiefly to the office of the elders, to choose the offices of the church, as oft as they be void: and addeth / that he never found in any Christian church established, that kind off election which is in the power one: it is clear / that he utterly condemneth ¹as altogether unwonted / as usurped / as tyrannical / that election which is made by the bishop alone: and that this is one of the substantial points / off a lawful Ecclesiastical election / that it be done by the Eldership. Secondly / in that he saith / it was the unchangeable purpose off the Apostles, to provide that the governors off the church, should not be thrust upon the church, against her vvill: that Paul, and Barnabas, to then-tent they would bring in no tyranny into the church, permitted the election off the elders unto the voices thereof: that they bring tyranny unto the church, which without the consent of the multitude, at their one pleasure, call any unto a public function in the church: it is most manifest / that master Beza holdeth this / for an other substantial point off a lawful Ecclesiastical election in a church established / that it be made with the peoples consent. So that it appeareth / that the election made by the Bishop alone / receiveth off Master Beza two deadly wounds / as it were in the heart / and in the head: one / for that it is not as well done by the authority off the Eldership / as by the bishop / or pastor: an other / because it is not done by the consent off the church. Now what do we require / in the election off Ecclesiastical officers / which Master Beza doth not? we require / that it be not permitted to one, he detesteth it as tyranny: we say / that it ought to be done by the elder ship, and by consent, at the lest off the people, he saith / the same.

To come therfore to the examination off this dealinge: fyrste in that he saith / that it had bene a dangerous error, if S. Peter had ⟨p. CXXXVI⟩