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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
What are the things then / used in the Apostles elections / ⟨p. CXXXVII⟩that M. Beza saith may be altered: and whereof there is no certain rule prescribed / which the church is always bound to follow? forsooth thes things / as may be easily gathered: that 1where sometimes the people upon particular occasions / did first choose / and the approbation off the governors did follow / other some times / and for the most part / the governors went before / and directed the judgements off the people: that in this circumstance / 2the church should be at her liberty / to order / and use which off these ways she should think most f•tte / having regard to the times / and other circumstances / which might move to take ether the one / or the other. Again where the Grecians used in their elections / the ceremony off holding up the hand / to testify their liking off him that was chosen: other (as the Romans) going from one side unto an other (Whereof cam / pedibus ire in sententiam): others by silence / did approve that which was propounded: that in thes / and such like the church might use that ceremony / which is both received in that place / and lest subject to slanderous speech. And that which the Answ. hath brought here / doth especially belong unto this: and is given off M. Beza where he showeth / that the manner off the Asians was / to testify there consent by lifting up of hands.
What are the thinges then / vsed in the Apostels elections / ⟨p. CXXXVII⟩that M. Beza saithe may be altered: and wheroff there is no certeine rule prescribed / whiche the churche is allwaies bounde to followe? forsouthe thes thinges / as may be easely gathered: that 1where sometimes the people vppon particular occasions / did first chuse / and the approbation off the gouernours did followe / other some times / and for the moste parte / the gouernours wente before / and directed the iudgementes off the people: that in this circunstance /