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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Tract. 2. and 3. according to the D. Off election of the minister.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
But off what things so ever in the election / that rule is given: It can by no means take away the election from the Eldership off every church / nor the peoples consent / to put all in the Bishops hand: Seeing that (as hath been showed) he maketh these two substantial points / off a lawful ecclesiastical election. And if the Answ. will accord us those: we shall soon agree for the rest. Upon all this matter I leave to the reader to esteem / how ether uncircunspectly / or unfaithfully / M. S. hath not borrowed / but taken away whether Master Beza will / or no / his sentences to overthrow that / which he so often times / and in so vehement words / so plainly doth establish.
But off what thinges so euer in the election / that rule is giuen: Yt can by no means take awaye the election from the Eldershipe off euery churche / nor the peoples consente / to put all in the Bishopes hande: Seinge that (as hathe bene shewed) he makethe these twoe substantiall poinctes / off a lawfull ecclesiasticall election. And if the Answ. will accorde vs those: wee shall soone agree for the reste. Vppon all this matter I leaue to the reader to esteme / howe ether vncircunspectly / or vnfaithfully / M. S. hath not borowed / but taken awaye whether Maister Beza wil / or no / his sentēces to ouerthrowe that / whiche he so often times / and in so vehement wordes / so plainly dothe establishe.
Now for your questions you pray me to answer / although they come so often / that you may aptelier be called the Questioner, then the Answerer, and that I need not by any order off disputation / be driven to speak to such flying demands: yet I ⟨p. CXXXVIII⟩am content / to let you use this advantage off venting them after this sort / which you can not put in any form off argument / and which being a little straight girt / shrink a way / or ever they come to be examined. But I must pray you also that where your questions be no weightier / you will be content that I answer them as shortly / as you propound them: Albeit I have in effect / answered them already in this section. I say therefore /